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Perry’s govt reform speech "This is not red meat. This is raw meat, still steaming from the cow"
Red State ^ | November 15, 2011 | Moe Lane

Posted on 11/15/2011 10:39:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: SoldierDad

Do your part to make sure we kick the leeches out of office. Change won’t happen if we don’t believe it is possible. We the people have to do our part too. Even if only part of the agenda gets passed then it is a step in the right direction.


61 posted on 11/15/2011 12:59:11 PM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: CajunConservative

Exactly. We need to adopt this mindset and move in this direction. Perry means it and he will start this ball moving in the right direction.


62 posted on 11/15/2011 1:01:18 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: CajunConservative

The agenda has to be realistic. What Perry is putting out for all to consume this early in the 2012 election is unrealistic. Part of being a good candidate is realizing that you DO NOT put all your cards on the table, especially not this early in a campaign. You also DO NOT tip your hand to your opponents, especially this early in the campaign (opponents also includes Obozo). Reagan gave out enough of what he proposed to work towards to potential voters during the campaign, but never gave all his goals out.


63 posted on 11/15/2011 1:05:54 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

Iowa is in 7 weeks. This isn’t all of his agenda either. If anything it shapes the conversation. People are pissed off at the greedy vermin enriching themselves while they took a major financial hit.


64 posted on 11/15/2011 1:16:00 PM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: SoldierDad

Gov Perry has won every election he’s entered.

How many times have you been elected to office? Run a campaign?


65 posted on 11/15/2011 1:21:08 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: al_c; normy
AH...I'd suggest looking into the promises he was unable to keep a bit closer. IF you think it was Perry's fault...I'd suggest you educate yourself a bit more on Perry. I was bias against Perry too, until I looked at the unbias info on him. Then I realized the bias info had no foundation whatsoever.

IF we lived in a different state than Texas, we'd be sucking eggs like the rest of the country, thanks to Perry we aren't. Texas was last into the recession and guess what we are the first out of the recession.

66 posted on 11/15/2011 1:24:40 PM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: SoldierDad

Well, Perry’s quite serious about steamrolling and ball-wrecking the Establishment. There’s really no effective way to sugar-coat or nuance that.

So he lays out his hand.


67 posted on 11/15/2011 1:27:30 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Again, you attempt to bolster a bad position through the use of a strawman argument. When Perry is not nominated we’ll talk.


68 posted on 11/15/2011 1:28:10 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: txhurl

Perhaps all you say is true. I stress, perhaps. Even so, Perry (nor anyone else) has the power to single-handedly make the changes in this proposal. What Perry is doing, badly IMO, is trying to correct course of a shipwrecked campaign - period. Even Reagan, of whom Perry would not be fit to carry water for, would not have played the hand Perry has played here, and Reagan had the skills needed to manuever the shark infested waters of D.C. Perry has demonstrated no facility to be at that level.


69 posted on 11/15/2011 1:31:38 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: normy

Not true, trust another Texan on this.


Another Not True from Another Texan on that.


70 posted on 11/15/2011 1:32:04 PM PST by TexMom7
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To: CajunConservative
Just to play devil's advocate here, your statement:

Do your part to make sure we kick the leeches out of office. Change won’t happen if we don’t believe it is possible. We the people have to do our part too. Even if only part of the agenda gets passed then it is a step in the right direction.

could just as easily have been made by a libtard during the 2008 election in support of Obozo. I AM NOT suggesting here that you are an Obozo supporter. I'm just pointing out how your statement could also apply to the mindset of liberals in the 2008 campaign.

71 posted on 11/15/2011 1:36:00 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad
Donors to Bush absent for Perry “WASHINGTON — Fewer than one in 10 of the top fundraisers who helped George W. Bush shatter records for presidential campaign money in 2000 and 2004 have donated to Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s 2012 presidential campaign, a Houston Chronicle analysis of Federal Election Commission data has found.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney holds a wide lead over other GOP presidential hopefuls in donations received from the 939 “Pioneers” and “Rangers” who raised at least $100,000 each for the Bush presidential efforts.”……

72 posted on 11/15/2011 1:36:14 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This might be interesting if there were any reason for posting it.


73 posted on 11/15/2011 1:38:09 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: shield

So you’re crediting Perry with being the force that has kept Texas in better financial shape than the other 49? Do you not realize that Texas has one of the weakest governorships in the nation? During session, the Lt. Governor has more power. Then the speaker. Perry (or whoever is gov) may be able to suggest what is slated as an emergency item, but he has zero power to force the speaker or the Lt. governor on how and when they take action.


74 posted on 11/15/2011 1:41:22 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: SoldierDad

You have to remember Perry has the support of all the Republican governors as their leader, men and women who want
the same rollbacks (tort reform, voterID, no income tax, EPA stuffed in a burlap bag and fed to the catfish, right-to-work, etc) as we either have or are working on. That’s serious ground game in itself.

Not to mention the ability to turn Statehouses solid red, and
punish the union leeches to the extent possible.

Reagan had it way harder than Perry, he wasn’t coming off a historic sweep like November 2010 was. Perry has taken every advantage to forward the movement and entrench it within the States.

It’s as silent and amorphous as the TEA party itself, and it is replicating itself everyday. Do you wonder why Newt, the essential Fed Guy, started talking states’ rights out of nowhere last week? He sees where the herd is heading, and wants to get out in front of it.


75 posted on 11/15/2011 1:41:45 PM PST by txhurl
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To: SoldierDad

But SoldierDad,

Being realistic is one thing but have we all come to a
perceived reality that Government does not represent
We The People?

If Perry were to become President and presented this kind of leadership and plan to the Congress Critters.
And if they blow up over it like we know they will.

We The People communicate boldly to our Representatives that we WANT what is being proposed and if they do not cooperate - they get their butts voted out of office and replaced with tea party or whoever representatives who will do the will of the people.


76 posted on 11/15/2011 1:47:02 PM PST by TexMom7
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To: TexMom7

I am a Tea Party Patriot. But, in case you haven’t noticed, it is the OWS cretins who are getting all the attention. The people who are praising Perry’s proposals as identified on this thread all seem to be of the mind that all this will take is someone making the proposals. Our country is faced with a seriously fractured body politic. There is NO consensus among voters today. There is NO We The People right now. The libtards in D.C. have succeeded in fracturing We The People into various single-issue groups. Why, if all it takes is for We The People to communicate to D.C. what our expectations are, have We The People been summarily dismissed by D.C.?


77 posted on 11/15/2011 1:55:42 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: TexMom7

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.


78 posted on 11/15/2011 1:55:57 PM PST by txhurl
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To: SoldierDad

Well of course it could apply to any party. Motivated voters make the difference in elections. People were motivated in 2008. We are paying the price today. If we want to undo the progressive policies we better be more motivated in 2012 to elect the one conservative candidate with the record to prove it.


79 posted on 11/15/2011 1:56:11 PM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: txhurl
It’s as silent and amorphous as the TEA party itself, and it is replicating itself everyday.

And yet, it is the OWS cretins who are being given all the attention, both through the Lame Stream Media and by politicians. The Tea Party continues to be vilified by both.

80 posted on 11/15/2011 1:58:49 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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