Sven Kullander On Rossi And eCat

Independent ECat News ^ | November 23, 2011 | admin

[muawiyah]

http://www.netl.doe.gov/business/solicitations/2001pdf/41428/ATTENDEE.PDF looking for Leonardo Technologies and we find the attendee here is Robert H. Gentile. He is later nominated for Assistant Secretary of Energy by George Bush ~ see: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=18065#axzz1eiUfJdIg. Later we find Leonardo Technologies holding seminars on CO2 sequestration, et al, and here at http://www.lti-global.com/ we find, again, the very same Robert H. Gentile ~ in the year 2011 under Barack Obama. I find it remarkable you don’t want to follow this line ~ that a principal officer in Leonardo is also involved in some fairly high level energy initiatives extending over 2 decades. So, what is it ~ is Rossi just glomming on to this guy’s name, or is the guy involved with Rossi?

[muawiyah]

What about the part where he goes home to Angelina Jolie and does stuff eh?

BTW, that ref takes you in just a couple of clicks to Portia de Rossi (always a suspicious name eh) ~ although she was originally named Rogers, who knows what other connections she may have to this guy with the gal's name, Andrea Rossi?

[Johnny B.]

What makes you think "LTI Global" (http://www.lti-global.com/), an Ohio company, is Rossi's old company (http://leonardocorp1996.com/), a New Hampshire company?

I think you're the one getting confused about different companies with similar names. Of course, has been accused before of picking company names that were deliberately very similar to other, more legitimate, companies in the same field.

[muawiyah]

That is, in fact, what I asked ~ is that what we are seeing perhaps. This LTI is the company that sold the devices to the Army to test for capability in using exotic fluids for field fuel cell operations.

Or, maybe something far more practical ~ that Rossi is buying used battery units from shut-down windmill operators and the name LEONARDO is already emblazoned on the cases? That saves him the problem of relabeling them for resale.

None of that is intended to let Pappy Bush off the hook BTW (if you want to go that way).

[muawiyah]

The charge was that "Rossi also got tax money from us for producing non-functioning "ThermoElectric power generators" for the Army."

Yet, the Leonardo Technologies being pointed to is a large company that has its labels on many things INCLUDING 1MW power windmill power generation batteries!

The error is NOT MINE ~ I've seen this business of LTI being confounded with LTI several times in the subgenre of "Rossi as scam artist" literature.

So, is this the same company or a different company? Is Rossi guilty of picking up on a trade name already used by someone in the same business as some of the equipment he uses? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7GCX2wiwVLY/TqoEOXxvw9I/AAAAAAAAAnw/iVDLv5QiCsE/s1600/ecat-rossi-1mw-plant.jpg is the inside of Rossi's 1MW unit.

Here's a 1 MW battery for a windmill http://pluggedin.pjm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/inside-trailer-batteries.jpg

These things look remarkably similar because ~ lo and behold ~ there's only so many ways to do this ~ whether it's batteries, or e-cats, or tool boxes, or whatever.

Didn't any of you ever try to find a picture that looked like that big box Rossi has? Although there are variations, and power capacities vary depending on state of technological development, you could take one of these battery module units you see on the rack, hook it up to a hydrogen gas generator leading into an ordinary GM manufactured truck brake cylinder, wrap some aluminum foil around it ~ and here's how you do the trick ~ if you had a working battery, you could charge that sucker up and it'd bleed electrons at 1MW per hour for 5.5 hours.

Somebody wanted us to focus on a generator? This is a massive battery system with a huge capacity using all sorts of modern high tech stuff and they are being JUNKED by windmill companies (a real scam if there ever was one) being put out of business in the EU as subsidies are eliminated.

If this guy is a fraud find out what's behind the aluminum foil ~ YOU don't need to be protected from stray beta radiation INSIDE the big box ~ it's made out of metal sufficiently to keep a slag out inside the box knocking you off your pins a block away with stray electric current.

[Johnny B.]

That is, in fact, what I asked ~ is that what we are seeing perhaps. This LTI is the company that sold the devices to the Army to test for capability in using exotic fluids for field fuel cell operations.

I'm not sure I've seen any evidence that the Ohio company is, in fact, Rossi's old company. I do see that it was originally incorporated as "USA Nuclear Laser, Inc." and later changed to "Leonardo Technologies, Inc.".

Meanwhile, the DOD report on Rossi's Thermoelectric converter [LINK], lists Andrea Rossi's company as being "Leonardo Technologies Inc. Murrysville PA". A quick search on the Pennsylvania business search web site does not show any company registerd with that name.

So, if you have any evidence that the Ohio company was Rossi's, or that the Ohio company was involved in the DOD research project, please provide it.

We know that the New Hampshire company is (or was) Rossi's, since it has the Internet domain that Rossi publicly uses for his email address. (By the way, this "Leonardo Technologies" doesn't seem to have a business record in New Hampshire, so I'm not sure how "legit" it is.)

I beleive it's been established that the "Dr. Andrea Rossi" mentioned in the DOD document is the same Rossi that is currently marketing the E-Cat device.

We don't know that the Ohio "LTI Global" has anything to do with either.

[muawiyah]

If that's the same Rossi with both LTI and LT in New Hampshire ~ then he's been building 1MWh batteries for quite some time, and is a heavy hitter in fuel cell technology.

Frankly, I don't think so. Else this dude would be on Obama's personal blackberry call list.

At the same time he's using the same containing box, the same frames, the same wiring harness, the same same racks, screws, bolts, interior lighting and everything EXCEPT you can buy the originals without a porthole in the door!

Or, maybe folks really don't know who Rossi is! (tympanic drum rolls boom boom boom boom boom)

[Lx]

Awesome, you think I'm dinodino and Johnny B or that they're me or that who knows? Then again, there was a recent episode of House where the the kid, has 'alters', three different personalities.

I just want to know whether I had as good a Thanksgiving as my Johnny B and dinodino personalities as I did in my Lx one.

I mention Start Trek, I mention a character actually two from Star Trek and these particles that are in every one of this character's explanations for whatever phenomena he describing. You blow past all that and think I was serious?

[Lx]

Awesome, you think I'm dinodino and Johnny B or that they're me or that who knows? Then again, there was a recent episode of House where the the kid, has 'alters', three different personalities.

I just want to know whether I had as good a Thanksgiving as my Johnny B and dinodino personalities as I did in my Lx one.

I mention Start Trek, I mention a character actually two from Star Trek and these particles that are in every one of this character's explanations for whatever phenomena he describing. You blow past all that and think I was serious?

[Lx]

Mmmmm, proton doughnut holes, aaahhh...

[dinodino]

Yes, my Thanksgiving was good. How was Thanksgiving as my Lx personality?

[Lx]

I even mentioned, Star Trek, TNG which started in '87 so I gave you twenty more years although I don't remember Scotty giving a string of B.S. about any problems which is why I mentioned Geordi. I don't even need to give an episode because he says the same thing in every one, "Picard, impossible problem"..."Geordi, wait, if we blah, blah, blah, Tachyons, blah, blah and out.

Wiki on Tachyons.

Money quotes:

#1:A tachyon (play /ˈtæki.ɒn/) is a hypothetical subatomic particle that always moves faster than light. In the language of special relativity, a tachyon would be a particle with space-like four-momentum and imaginary proper time. A tachyon would be constrained to the space-like portion of the energy-momentum graph

Please take note of the word, Hypothetical

#2:Despite the theoretical arguments against the existence of tachyon particles, experimental searches have been conducted to test the assumption against their existence; however, no experimental evidence[5] for the existence of tachyon particles has been found.

Please note the part highlighted.

I also said, Tachyons, not Neutrinos.

[Lx]

Yes, yes, I’m familiar with the two experiments showing neutrinos possibly traveling faster than light. Those are different particles, and tachyons remain purely hypothetical particles which could only exist in some physical models.

Don't forget Star Trek TNG, they exist there also...

[muawiyah]

And aren't you?

You all seem to think Rossi is more than one guy, so why not you three being just one guy.

Now, re-engage on why Rossi is using what is obviously a surplused 1MW battery rack with modular blade holders?

Oh, yeah, and 100 GM C20 or G10 brake cylinders? He grew up around this stuff ~ those cylinders are actually one of the more high tech consumer products you depend on daily. Though they are not electronic in nature they can handle quite high pressures not ordinarily encountered. The devices may well have titanium hardened outer shells, but inside they are BRASS ~ just in case you wanted to get your copper residues!

Like if you are going to go after this guy on fraud start with the visible elements ~ the man's name is too common to do good searches on to pin down everything. His 1Mwh battery array is certainly a place to start.

[dinodino]

Have you ever been adjudicated mentally incompetent?

[Lx]

Went very well, fried turkey; I’m still full.

[Lx]

OK, what's really going to bake your noodle is, are all of the posters on these threads just manifestations of my one physical existence?

Paraphrased from, The Matrix!

[dinodino]

I have NEVER seen a titanium wheel cylinder, and I have wrenched on cars for many, many years. Please cite your source for “titanium hardened outer shells.”

MENTAL CASE!

[muawiyah]

We’re talking about a performance speciication ~ names can vary. Remember, we may have discovered it but gave it the wrong name so later on when we know what we ought to name it we can rename it kind of like changing heads on the Brontosaurus ~ once we found out what the right head was (so it had a throat big enough to swallow) we renamed it Aptosaurus (see: http://www.unmuseum.org/dinobront.htm for a fuller explanation)

[Johnny B.]

You all seem to think Rossi is more than one guy, so why not you three being just one guy.

You're the only one who's been suggesting that there are more than one Andrea Rossi involved in any of this.

Everyone else is confident that the "Andrea Rossi" who was convicted for the Petrol Dragon related crimes is the same "Andrea Rossi" who was convicted for the gold "smuggling" crimes (as I amply documented above), who is the "Andrea Rossi" who was involved in the failed Thermoelectric converter project for the Army, who is the "Andrea Rossi" who is now selling E-Cats to anyone who will sign up on his "sucker's list".

You're the one trying to drag an apparently unconnected company in Ohio into this, in an effort to have the credibility of that unrelated company somehow "rub off" on Rossi.

Either provide some evidence that the Ohio company "LTI Global" is somehow tied into the Rossi mess, or stop claiming that a Rossi "conspiracy" somehow involves high-ranking officials of past and president Administrations.