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To: Kartographer

Is this facility run by a church?
Is the work of the facility a religious endeavor?
Or is it commerce?
A church can engage in commerce, but then it has to follow the rules of commerce.
Selling food and supplies in bulk is commerce.
The government typically requires those engaged in commerce to keep records what is sold and to whom and at what price.

The government requires the local meat packing plant, and Nabisco and Sams Club to keep records of what is sold and to whom and at what price.

It seems these laws also apply to bulk sales of food, regardless of why the food is being sold.

As a minimum, revenue has to be tracked for IRS purposes, even if they sell one apple at a time.

Is the federal govt trying to enforce the law?
Has this facility been following the record keeping requirements?

1. Are you mad because the laws seem intrusive?
2. Are you mad because the laws are being enforced?
3. Are you mad because this facility is being singled out?
4. Are you mad because the law finally caught up with this facility?

Its hard to tell.


12 posted on 12/09/2011 6:07:00 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding
The government typically requires those engaged in commerce to keep records what is sold and to whom and at what price.

BS. I can go to my supermarket, load up a cart with stuff, pay cash, and they don't care who I am. This store is under no obligation to maintain records of who they sell to.

15 posted on 12/09/2011 6:14:35 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Notwithstanding

Wear your yoke easily FRiend. Keep thinking it is just about rules for your own good as that yoke clicks shut on your neck.


18 posted on 12/09/2011 6:17:18 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Notwithstanding
I didn't think about the church getting involved in organized commerce and perhaps running afoul of regulations. That's a far simpler explanation and more likely scenario.

The article just babbles about DHS wanting to know who is stockpiling food in case of an apocalypse of some sort so they could target those people, which is dumb. If the government is going to confiscate food to control people, they are going to do it at the source of production or distribution.

The federal government doesn't have the resources to search 85 million households, but they do have the resources to take control of distribution centers and they could put the majority of those 85 million households under their heel within just a few months if they control those distribution centers.
21 posted on 12/09/2011 6:19:30 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Notwithstanding
According to the article, they're not wanting to know what they sold, and for how much. They're wanting to know the names of the people they sold it to.

This doesn't appear to be about commerce, but about finding out who's got a food stash.

24 posted on 12/09/2011 6:24:52 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Notwithstanding

You’re one of those “If you have nothing to hide” people aren’t you?


28 posted on 12/09/2011 6:36:04 AM PST by Dick Tater
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To: Notwithstanding

That they have to keep records doesn’t explain why they need to KEEP those records?

Do you if Sams Club regularly hands over copies of customer records without a reason (meaning without a warrant).

And even if it’s a tax issue, how is the names and addresses of every customer going to help determine the sale.


57 posted on 12/09/2011 8:43:35 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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