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No More Compact Trucks… For US
Eric Peters Autos ^ | December 9, 2011 | Eric Peters

Posted on 12/12/2011 8:29:34 AM PST by MulberryDraw

Here’s the first known victim of the latest CAFE (government fuel efficiency) increase to 35.5 MPG: The compact pick-up truck. And the American truck buyer.

Ok, that’s two victims.

I’ve just discovered that Ford has dropped the Ranger – America’s last compact-sized truck - for 2012. But not from its lineup. Just from its U.S. model lineup. Not only will the Ranger continue to be sold in export markets, the 2012 model will be a heavily updated model which, among other things, will offer a new diesel engine...

(Excerpt) Read more at epautos.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: automobiles; diesel
Obama, the EPA and central planning screw up again.
1 posted on 12/12/2011 8:29:47 AM PST by MulberryDraw
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To: MulberryDraw

“They” want to get rid of all affordable vehicles—especially SUV/trucks—as they are a real symbol/means of good ‘ol American individuality/independence!

Miss my Ranger, but my present Ford Escape will haul most of the stuff that Chuck (my truck) used to do. And the Escape is a nice driving little vehicle!

Semper Watching!
*****


2 posted on 12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: MulberryDraw

The EPA made it clear to the automakers that they do not want diesel powered passenger cars and light trucks on the US market. The US automakers make and market plenty of highly fuel efficient diesel engine powered vehicles, just not in the US. Why this is so is completely beyond most rational engineers. These engines are not the polluting nasty engine designs from the 70’s and 80’s.


3 posted on 12/12/2011 8:38:29 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: MulberryDraw

Obama would rather we just tow horsecarts behind our Volts, Leafs, and Priuses.

I really hope Ford takes their Ecoboost V6 and moves it downscale in their product line. Right now you have to buy the top-end F-150s and Flexes to get that engine, which stinks because it’s amazing. I’m as much a big V8 fan as anybody, but a full-size pickup with 365 horsepower that can still squeeze out almost 25 mpg highway is amazing.

}:-)4


4 posted on 12/12/2011 8:39:40 AM PST by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: MulberryDraw

Really........o.k., I read the article and its so full of discrepancies its pathetic. One obvious blunder is the statement that the Ford Ranger is the only compact of not-full sized truck made. Toyota Tacoma owners and Nissan Frontier owners would take exception to that as would Chevy Colorado owners and Dodge Durango, (I think) owners.

Ford is discontinuing the Ranger because 1) it’s a Mazda 2000 and 2) Mazda is disconintinuing the line. It hasn’t been updated in 20 years. And, no.......you won’t get 22 MPG city in it, believe me, I’ve got friends suffering 15 MPG city with the gutless 4 cylinder engine.

Ford is killing it because its killing Ford.


5 posted on 12/12/2011 8:44:25 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: MulberryDraw

This is too bad.

We already have a FS gas truck (GM).

Our other cars are getting older, and although I generally don’t buy new, a diesel compact pickup from a non-government manufacturer would really have been worth looking at.

I’ve never bought a new car, but I actually would willingly endure a visit to the showroom to have seen a small diesel pickup.


6 posted on 12/12/2011 8:46:10 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: MulberryDraw

Ford is dropping the Ranger because they claim that it is too close to the F-150 and people like to buy F-150’s. I hate the government and EPA, but this is all on Ford’s shoulders. In the 1990’s they ended the T-Bird/Cougar lines because it was too close to the Mustang and Taurus. Unfortunately, you can’t buy a Taurstang that offers a roomy interior with rear-wheel drive, V8-powered performance. But, they wanted to get rid of the car that serves two markets very well and instead make the buyer who wants both move to a more-expensive SUV. This decision is designed to move people away from cheap, light PUs to more expensive SUVs and F-150s.


7 posted on 12/12/2011 8:46:31 AM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Rich21IE

I can’t speak to the Asian makes, but I believe the Durango and Colorado are considered mid-size, not compact.

The S-10 was a compact, but it was replaced by the mid-size Colorado.


8 posted on 12/12/2011 8:47:47 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Rich21IE

Pretty reliable though. I’m on my second one because the first was totaled (by the other driver). I’ve got about 175000 on it.


9 posted on 12/12/2011 8:48:20 AM PST by bkepley
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To: Rich21IE

Thanks. Good points.


10 posted on 12/12/2011 8:48:47 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Anyone see the democrat budget yet?)
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To: Bryanw92

The margins on the more expensive vehicles are way better than on the small strippers. Just another reason we buy small strippers :-)


11 posted on 12/12/2011 8:50:40 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: MulberryDraw
There's been a lot less Rangers on the market the last 8 years. I thought they were dropped awhile back.

I think a lot of it was price. Pickups aren't cheap and now cost the same or more than SUV's.

12 posted on 12/12/2011 8:52:28 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Moose4

If Obama has his way, we’ll probably end up using those Volts, Leafs, and Priuses as horsecarts.


13 posted on 12/12/2011 8:59:28 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Rich21IE

The Dodge Dakota and GM Colorado and Canyon are toast also. They are not going to make them any more; at least according to what I have read.


14 posted on 12/12/2011 8:59:56 AM PST by toolman1401
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To: MulberryDraw
I always like Eric Peters as an automotive writer. He is also connected to the NMA as well. That organization helped get rid of the hated 55 mph speed limit.

I know Obama has a real hatred towards the blue collar working people !
15 posted on 12/12/2011 8:59:56 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: gunnyg

Don’t believe all the rumors coming out of these auto rags. Hubby has worked for Ford for 27 years, and the media types never get anything right. SIL is in Turkey working on some new vehicles which will eventually come back over here.


16 posted on 12/12/2011 9:00:02 AM PST by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: KYGrandma

Thank you for responding—yeh, it’s difficult to fully believe anything anymore, even online, and nothing on the gubmint media!

Semper Fidelis and Take Care...

Gunny G
aka: Dick Gaines
USMC 1952—1972
*****


17 posted on 12/12/2011 9:06:06 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: bkepley

I had a ‘94 4x4 with the 4L V6. Great truck drove it ‘til 2006 and had very little trouble with it. My son bought a 2009 in the config and loves it.

I now drive an F150 my wife drives an Expedition and my S-i-L drives a Sportrac.


18 posted on 12/12/2011 9:09:17 AM PST by gc4nra (This tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment!)
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To: KYGrandma

FWIW, if you go to Ford.com, every vehicle I pulled up lists the 2012 model. Except the Ranger - it’s a 2011.

I don’t know what it means, but it seems if there were going to be a 2012 model, it would be out by mid December of 2011.


19 posted on 12/12/2011 9:11:42 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Rich21IE

Love my ‘08 Frontier. I’ve ridden in Rangers and can see why they dumped it. Worst rated small truck in the industry.

Which doesn’t change the fact that Obama is attempting to strangle America into Socialist submission.


20 posted on 12/12/2011 9:16:39 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: MulberryDraw

Last I saw, the Ranger had grown to around 4000 pounds - hardly the lightweight that my 1983 was (roughly 3000 pounds and near 30 mpg highway). I’d say that the compact truck has been gone for quite a while.


21 posted on 12/12/2011 9:17:49 AM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: MulberryDraw

They won’t stop there. next on the chopping block will be 1/2 ton pickups and SUVs. Eventually our only options will be prius like cars or $80,000 one-ton duallies.


22 posted on 12/12/2011 9:20:05 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: bkepley

Oh, yes, reliable and long lived they are.


23 posted on 12/12/2011 9:20:40 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: chrisser
I was told by a sales man at a local dealership that the Ranger is to be discontinued in favor of a new midsized truck called the F100.(Recently bought a used Mustang)
24 posted on 12/12/2011 9:24:04 AM PST by nomad
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To: toolman1401

The Colorado is coming back as an updated model, but I think you are correct about the Dakota.


25 posted on 12/12/2011 9:24:23 AM PST by redangus
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To: meyer

That’s because the full size trucks got bigger. Compare a modern chevy colorado to a 1970 chevy C-10. They are about the same size. Or a new ford ranger to a 1970 ford F-100.


26 posted on 12/12/2011 9:25:09 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: nomad

I wonder if it will have a stickshift option


27 posted on 12/12/2011 9:26:46 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: gunnyg
Gunny G
aka: Dick Gaines
USMC 1952—1972
*****

20 years...THANK YOU SIR! I owe you a debt I cannot pay.

28 posted on 12/12/2011 9:27:56 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Rich21IE
I'm on my 3rd Ranger, I got 22 city and 27hwy with my 4 cyl extended cab model.
29 posted on 12/12/2011 9:28:49 AM PST by Jeff Vader
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To: mamelukesabre
Hope so, economy ever gets better-(Obarky gets the proverbial boot in 2012), I would like to get a new Ford truck, love my Ranger, even with it`s anemic 2.3L. A well shifted 5-speed trans makes up for a lot.
30 posted on 12/12/2011 9:33:20 AM PST by nomad
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To: MulberryDraw

One other item I want to comment on. I own a 1991 Toyota 4x4 pickup truck. What is a shame, I cannot buy an equivalent truck new today ! A simple 4x4 truck of a smaller size with either a 4 cyl or V-6 with a simple manual transmission. Only thing available is the Tundra or Tacoma which are basically full size trucks ! TO buy those new, you have to fork out much more money as well !


31 posted on 12/12/2011 9:34:36 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: MulberryDraw
Maybe they are refocusing their marketing in other areas


32 posted on 12/12/2011 9:36:23 AM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: MulberryDraw

Everybody in the world gets a diesel but us. Why? Start with thanking Kalifornia and their emission rules then the EPA. Diesel light trucks would sell like hotcakes.

The CAFE rules will kill just about any vehicle bigger than a go cart eventually. This country will look like Cuba with old cars lovingly maintained.

The various diesel utility trucks and SUVs sold all around the world are absolutely fantastic vehicles... and we can’t have one. The diesel Subaru Outback is phenomenal as is the diesel Pajero, Volvo, Toyota trucks and Land Cruiser, even the Ford Ranger where I have seen them...

To hell with the EPA, save for the military to hell with the rest of the government while we are at it. Politicians from both sides of the aisle and bureaucrats are just about all the same thieves, power mongers and controllers, usurpers of liberty the whole lot of them. Out with all of them.


33 posted on 12/12/2011 9:43:23 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: MulberryDraw
Maybe they are refocusing their marketing in other areas


34 posted on 12/12/2011 9:45:27 AM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: Jeff Vader

most people buy the 4x4 with the big fat tires and an automatic transmission. THat’s why they get the crappy mileage.


35 posted on 12/12/2011 9:48:31 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: McGruff

These are outstanding trucks with a diesel engine. All but unstoppable buy the terrain. A direct hit though makes them pretty much just toast.


36 posted on 12/12/2011 9:51:38 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: chrisser

You can get a re-built to brand new V-6 engine for a Chevy S-10 for up to 2.5K... labor to get it installed and running about 600. If one keeps up with the body/paint, replaces a manual clutch when worn out, keeps up with synthetic lube and cleaning of rwd differential— well the S-10 would run an easy 500K plus miles.

Friend has one and is doing just this. He got 200K on the first block, has replaced the clutch and cleaned,repacked the differential with syn lube.

Tires- about 400. So, all in all one can manage through all of this marketing and govt. idiocy, if you know people who are sharp.


37 posted on 12/12/2011 9:52:12 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Worst rated small truck in the industry.”

Rated by who? By you? Opinions are like a**holes. Everybody has at least one.


38 posted on 12/12/2011 10:09:05 AM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: MulberryDraw

Dear Lord, this is heartbreaking. I’ve owned two Rangers - one a grey 1985 and my current - a 99 3.0 v6. The CAFE standards are going to make trucks unaffordable to manufacture. I would LOVE to get my hands on a diesel Ranger. I guess I can always find an old chassis of one thing or another and put an engine in myself. Probably come out cheaper that way, too.


39 posted on 12/12/2011 10:10:01 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Rich21IE

Ford seems to be trying to really limit the number of different platforms it is building.

They discontinued the ancient Panther platform, and are phasing out the excellent RWD Australian Falcon platform. They dumped DEW, which was so much better than what they are using for the MKZ.

I’m glad they’re still in business, but it’s hard to get very excited about most of their vehicles, which are really more like appliances these days.


40 posted on 12/12/2011 10:28:30 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: John S Mosby
You can get a re-built to brand new V-6 engine for a Chevy S-10 for up to 2.5K... labor to get it installed and running about 600. If one keeps up with the body/paint, replaces a manual clutch when worn out, keeps up with synthetic lube and cleaning of rwd differential— well the S-10 would run an easy 500K plus miles.

Friend has one and is doing just this. He got 200K on the first block, has replaced the clutch and cleaned,repacked the differential with syn lube.

Tires- about 400. So, all in all one can manage through all of this marketing and govt. idiocy, if you know people who are sharp.


I have thought along these lines many times - ditto with an older Ranger. They're nice little trucks.

We have a Pull-a-Part franchise down the road. Unbelievably good prices on used parts and plenty of both vehicles in stock all the time. You can pretty much build your own S-10 or Ranger by picking and choosing options out of the junk yard once you had a base chassis (although there's something to be said for the simplicity of the basics, which is also doable).

I'd really like a diesel both for the mileage and to have a vehicle which takes a different fuel source. Unfortunately, swapping a diesel is technically illegal, although a pre-86 would be exempt from emissions testing in my state so wouldn't be detected.

I even thought about building a fiberglass body on the chassis to get around the fact that most of the bodies are rusted away in my area...
41 posted on 12/12/2011 11:31:37 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: chrisser
There's a company that rebuilds them professionally: http://www.dieselenginesusa.com/

When the time comes, I might go for that option - I don't fly down the road in my truck and the extra pulling power would be nice along with the better mileage pound-for-pound.
42 posted on 12/12/2011 11:43:31 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: mamelukesabre

yeah, me too. my current one is 4 liter, 4x4 off road 4 door model and it gets 18/22. I used to commute 180 miles/day when I had the 4 cyl model and needed the mileage it had


43 posted on 12/12/2011 12:22:50 PM PST by Jeff Vader
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To: MulberryDraw

Well I am going to keep my Hardbody going as long as possible.


44 posted on 12/12/2011 12:24:29 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Mitt Romney, a piss poor choice)
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To: gunnyg
Gunny G
aka: Dick Gaines
USMC 1952—1972
*****

20 years...THANK YOU SIR! I owe you a debt I cannot pay.

45 posted on 12/12/2011 12:47:29 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: mamelukesabre
Or a new ford ranger to a 1970 ford F-100.

It's been a while since I drove an F-100, but I know that it had a very roomy interior and you could fit a 4-foot wide piece of plywood in back between the wheel wells. Not so with the Ranger. It's always had a narrower bed.

46 posted on 12/13/2011 7:01:55 AM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: MulberryDraw

Well, that is what the majority of those that voted on November 4, 2008 voted for.


47 posted on 12/13/2011 7:04:43 AM PST by sport
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