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To: RonBush

The link you provided is consistent with information I found myself online.

300 streetlights went out. Elsewhere, I found claims that one microwave conmmunications system was damaged (believable) and that many burglar alarms went off.

I’m kind of puzzled re the burglar alarm claim, since I’m somewhat familiar with what those circuits consisted of in the f69’s. But I’d be inclined to atttibute that to a shock wave if anything.

No mention anywhere of TVs or radios being actually damaged. Nor any mention of transformers getting fried.

I note the doc you cited attempts to be pretty rigorous, but only superficially. It raises and then discounts competing claims pretty off-handedly.

For instance: could the flash have caused the streetlights to all have gone out and came back on at the same time? The author talks to a utility guy who say “they won’t go off for a brief flash” and considers that “debunked”.

Have you never seen one go off due to lightening? I have. Many times.

See what I mean?

And what about the remainder of Hawaii’s grid? Why wasn’t it blown?

I get that you believe this. And I know some people do.

But I’m not one of them. And so far there really isn’t much reliable evidence regaring its efficacy as a strategic weapon.

And that’s ignoring the 800 lb elephant in the corner: If an enemy has the ability to put nukes over our heartland, would EMP really your biggest worry? Why wouldn’t he simply blow us to oblivion?

As we’ve seen in the mideast, left over people are a PITA anyway. And if he just wanted to preserve infrastructure, wouldn’t a neutron bomb be the ticket?


60 posted on 12/15/2011 6:22:48 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: Pessimist
No mention anywhere of TVs or radios being actually damaged.

Remember this was in 1962, and I believe most TV and radio was still tubes. Transistor radio's existed, but they were a novelty.

I get that you believe this. And I know some people do.

Actually no. I am not sure, and I am curious. It is interesting to talk about something like this in these forums because you get all kinds of information from people with different knowledge and points of view. It is a learning experience for me at this point.

63 posted on 12/15/2011 10:45:43 AM PST by RonBush
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