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To: James Oscar

I’ve seen cytokine storms short circuited with steroids and even aspirin...but i fear that those who survive the initial brush with HIV pneumonic variant will still have the hiv virus in their systems and suffer the eventual lingering denoument of their immune systems and end their lives with AIDS and related oppurtunistic infections.


115 posted on 01/19/2012 7:37:11 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make man into God but to restore fellowship of the Godhead with man.)
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To: mdmathis6

I am a writer and not a medical professional but here is what MA says about the Cy. storm.

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MA: Well, it is not so black and white as you make it. What I believe is that it will change. It will go airborne and it will become quick and deadly. When it makes that magic mutation that gives it the ability to ride the water droplets expelled in a cough or sneeze to the lungs of a healthy person - not only will it have found the mechanism for rapid transmission but the mutation will also set in motion a very different chain of events from what we know now.

When the new HIV virus arrives in the lungs of a new patient there is the great potential for a positive feedback loop to be established between the new invader and the host’s immune system. At the arrival of the new pathogen, cytokine will signal the body to send T Cells to fight the infection. The T cells, upon being stimulated by the cytokine will begin to produce even more cytokine.

This is the normal reaction and happens all the time. But we have a real problem don’t we?

Q: HIV lives on T cells?

MA: Yes of course. So now we have the feedback loop. T cells rushing to the lungs where they are infected with new virus and more and more cytokine being produced by the body. The result is called a “Cytokine Storm”. The lungs begin to fill with fluids and immune cells. The result is sudden death. When this event takes place in the lungs, it can kill a healthy young person in less than 48 hours. We learned this lesson in the 1918 flu outbreak.

Q: So the hardy virus can jump from lungs to lungs and once there put in motion a very serious reaction that will kill you rather quickly. Is that about it?

MA: Just about, the only addition I would add is that once the new bug creates this “soup” in the lungs - with each cough or sneeze this deadly pathogen is sent on an airborne journey looking for a healthy lung to infect.


116 posted on 01/19/2012 7:44:14 AM PST by James Oscar
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