Posted on 12/21/2011 4:56:03 AM PST by Kevmo
LOL! Ditto!
Why don't Jed and all the other weepy cold fusion fan boys all contribute $5 via Paypal? If the research costs "almost nothing," then that should get it going again.
Why don't Jed and all the other weepy cold fusion fan boys all contribute $5 via Paypal? If the research costs "almost nothing," then that should get it going again.Rossi has supposedly sold over $20 million worth of E-Cats in the last couple of months just to one (secret) customer. Maybe he should toss a few bucks that way.
For that matter, since Rossi has reneged on his promise to pay the University of Bologna to test his device (for which he supposedly sold his house to pay), he could use some of that money as well.
I don’t know but something, I can’t name it, but something makes me think you’re not serious.
I think that’s a boffo idea!
It should if the anomaly is due to something more than bad experiments or fraud. It's over 20 years later and cold fusion is still, at best, an anomaly. It only took a year to figure out muon catalyzed cold fusion and that was over 50 years ago.
the Rossi fanboys have been strongly suggesting that SPAWAR was Rossi’s “secret customer”
***I don’t know how many times I need to remind pathoskeps (or better, skeptopaths) like yourself, I’m not a Rossi fan I’m a LENR fan. Your whole argument is based upon this “strongly suggesting” that others MAY have indulged in which means you’re arguing against something that even in its best light is obviously not proof, so it amounts to a straw argument.
It is incidents such as this that reveal how deep the bowlsheet goes with guys like you. You claim to support LENR but not Rossi, and when LENR gets a bad shake you jump all over it.
Why is it that almost none of you guys can put together more than 2 posts without classic logical fallacies being invoked? Did you never make it past high school critical thinking classes?
***I don’t know how many times I need to remind pathoskeps (or better, skeptopaths) like yourself, I’m not a Rossi fan I’m a LENR fan.You are both, which is unfortunate since your desperate support of LENR is blinding you to Rossi's obvious scam.
The fact remains that after 20 years, there still isn't any there there.
My support of LENR is not blinding me to the possibility that it is a scam. I have considered the possibility. I have looked at the angles, how Rossi could have done some magician’s trick to fool skeptics like Levi who went into it looking for exactly such tricks.
How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real (or Fake)
LENR.QUMBO.com ^ | April 6, 2011 | Alan Fletcher
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:52:15 PM by Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2730401/posts
It is blind skeptopaths such as yourself who will not look at the science behind these developments.
For instance, almost all of you seem to be slackjawed for a response to the fact that the Pons-Fleishmann effect has been replicated more than 14,700 times.
Jing-tang He
• Nuclear fusion inside condense matters
• Frontiers of Physics in China
Volume 2, Number 1, 96-102, DOI: 10.1007/s11467-007-0005-8
This article describes in detail the nuclear fusion inside condense matters—the Fleischmann-Pons effect, the reproducibility of cold fusions, self-consistency of cold fusions and the possible applications
http://www.boliven.com/publication/10.1007~s11467-007-0005-8?q=(%22David%20J.%20Nagel%22)
Scientific American
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-scientists-sin
1. Jed Rothwell
11:52 AM 6/20/10
Shermer says that Goodstein concluded that cold fusion was most likely a case of scientists who “convince themselves that they are in the possession of knowledge that does not in fact exist.”
Cold fusion has been replicated in over 180 major laboratories, by roughly 1,500 professional scientists. These replications have been published in roughly 800 papers in mainstream, peer reviewed journals such as J. Electroanal. Chem. and Japanese J. of Applied Physcis. J. He of the Institute of High Energy Physics, Chinese Academy of Sciences estimates that the effect has been observed in roughly 14,000 experimental runs (Front. Phys. China (2007) 1: 96 102).
Many of the results were at low signal to noise ratio, but others were high, such as heat from 10 to 100 W, and tritium at 50 times background (Los Alamos, Texas A&M) up to several million times (BARC).
Most of the researchers who have reported positive results are senior, distinguished experts, such as the Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, government of India, and the experts at Los Alamos in charge of the Tritium Systems Test Assembly and the Tokamak Fusion Test Reactor at Princton. Only senior researchers can get funding because of academic politics.
When a result has been widely replicated at high signal to noise ratios and reported in the literature, that result is real, by definition. There is no other standard of reality in science. If it were possible for hundreds of scientists in hundreds of laboratories to be wrong, the experimental method would not work, and no result would be meaningful, and science itself would not work. If Shermer and Goodstein would substitute some other standard of truth, and ignore replication and peer-review, they are engaged in some form of faith-based religion or a popularity contest, not science.
For instance, almost all of you seem to be slackjawed for a response to the fact that the Pons-Fleishmann effect has been replicated more than 14,700 times.After seeing how uncritically willing the field has been to accept every ridiculous claim by Rossi, I have serious doubts about the basic competence of the entire field. After devoting their careers to such a dead-end field, I suspect they will grasp at any straw, no matter how dubious.
After devoting their careers to such a dead-end field, I suspect they will grasp at any straw, no matter how dubious.
***Your posts are almost perfect examples of a skeptopath.
***Your posts are almost perfect examples of a skeptopath.We'll see. What you call "skeptopath" has been the most reasonable position to take for the last 20 years. I suspect it will serve me well for the next 20 years.
“I’d like to know all about MIT’s role in this. They are a preeminent school, in the top five and they’re going to risk their considerable reputation over this?”
“I hope the whole sordid truth comes out.”
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/mitcfreport.pdf
“How much funding if any do they receive for hot fusion?”
A lot. At the time Mallove wrote his critique, ~$250,000,000.
Conveniently, Mallove was killed in “an attempted burglary”.
Never mind that 95% of the spam you put on FR is about Rossi, although it does seem that over the past couple of weeks, your puppy love for Rossi may be fading. Are you finally convinced that he's nothing more than a con artist?
You remind me of a guy who goes through the phone book, calling women to tell them he wouldn't go out with them.
How many times was the energy output accurately predicted, or were they all anomalous like Pons-Fleishmann?
Unlike you who goes through the phone book, calling women to tell them he will go out with them.
According to a post by Sterling Allan, Levi is a Rossi employee, not a skeptic.
Your response is duly noted and filed.
Your posting of that Scientific American article and then Jed Rothwell strongly suggests he wrote the SA article when all he did was comment on it. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way.
Replicated 14,700 times, so, where's my Mr. Fusion?
That's a lot of, um, incentive...
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