Posted on 12/21/2011 8:00:41 PM PST by Amerisrael
Thank you.
Happy Chanukkah FRiend. May G*d bless you throughout the year.
Thank you Amerisrael!
Just get Elijah out of my doorway and that dork Harry Hannah has got stop wearing that ridiculous get up.
He’s scaring the kids.... Fer Christ sake!
Just kidding ..... Happy chanukah.
Israel forever.
Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead,
Forgot the cry of gulls, and the deep sea swell
And the profit and loss.
A current under sea
Picked his bones in whispers. As he rose and fell
He passed the stages of his age and youth
Entering the whirlpool.
Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
Sorry - given the title, that was the first thing that occurred to me
I like it.
Hope I remember it in the morning....
Amen! Preach it, FRiend!
May we all be made to see by the light!
Happy Chanukkah !
Don’t forget - if it weren’t for Chanukkah there wouldn’t be a Christmas.
Shalom y’all!
Happy Chanukkah!!! May G-d bless you!
All Y’all!
Happy Chanakah....
Happy Hanukkah!
But the “history” above is pure balderdash. Where in the Acts of the Council of Nicaea was there any discussion of Christmas?? And where is the evidence that Gentile Christians were celebrating Hanukkah?
What actually happened is that the Jewish Christian community was scattered and dispersed by Hadrian’s edict banning Jews from Jerusalem in 135. After that date, the Church in Jerusalem was mostly of Gentile origin and the Jewish Christian community fell into obscurity.
Oh, and Hippolytus of Rome was already citing Dec. 25 as Christ’s birthday in the early 200s.
Happy Hanukkah to all FReepers of any religion!
“...Hadrian’s edict banning Jews from Jerusalem in 135. After that date, the Church in Jerusalem was mostly of Gentile origin and the Jewish Christian community fell into obscurity.”
On the contrary there is documentation that Jewish believers in Yeshua were very much still around long after their dispersion from Jerusalem and Israel.
Even though Gentile Christians had become the majority of believers in Yeshua.
Please see the following article on the anti-semitism of John Chrysostom:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Chrysostom#Sermons_on_Jews_and_Judaizing_Christians
“During his first two years as a presbyter in Antioch (386-387), John denounced Jews and Judaizing Christians in a series of eight homilies delivered to Christians in his congregation who were taking part in Jewish festivals and other Jewish observances.”
[”...Christians in his congregation who were taking part in Jewish festivals and other Jewish observances”]
[42] “It is disputed whether the main target were specifically Judaizers or Jews in general. His homilies were expressed in the conventional manner, utilizing the uncompromising rhetorical form known as the psogos (Greek: blame).”
“One of the purposes of these homilies was to prevent Christians from participating in Jewish customs, and thus prevent the perceived erosion of Chrysostom’s flock.”
“In his homilies, John criticized those “Judaizing Christians”, who were participating in Jewish festivals and taking part in other Jewish observances, such as the shabbat, submitted to circumcision and made pilgrimage to Jewish holy places.”
[43] “John claimed that on the shabbats and Jewish festivals synagogues were full of Christians, especially women, who loved the solemnity of the Jewish liturgy, enjoyed listening to the shofar on Rosh Hashanah, and applauded famous preachers in accordance with the contemporary custom.”
[44] “A more recent theory is that he instead tried to persuade Jewish Christians, who for centuries had kept connections with Jews and Judaism, to choose between Judaism and Christianity.”[45]
“...Jewish Christians, who for centuries had kept connections with Jews and Judaism, to choose between Judaism and Christianity”
Or to phrase it more correctly,-
-choose between adapting his brand of Christianity [Christ=Messiah, Christianity =Messiannic]which sought to de-legitimise the Jewishness of a Jewish religion , or abandon their own Jewish identity heritage .
This was all because of his “Christian anti-semitism”
As far as Constantine decreeing Dec25th as the birth of the Messiah and the creation of Christmas see the link above at the end of the post entitled “Why Dec.25th?”
Also visit the following link:
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Israel/israel.html
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