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The Number One Catastrophic Event That Americans Worry About: Economic Collapse
TEC ^ | 12-30-2011

Posted on 12/30/2011 4:32:24 AM PST by blam

The Number One Catastrophic Event That Americans Worry About: Economic Collapse

December 30, 2011

Can you guess what the number one catastrophic event that Americans worry about is? There are certainly many to choose from. Many Americans are deathly afraid of a major terrorist attack. Others live in constant fear of natural disasters such as earthquakes, volcanoes and hurricanes. Still others are incredibly concerned that a massive pandemic will break out at any time or that World War III will erupt in the Middle East. Yes, there are certainly a lot of potential catastrophic events that one can worry about in the times in which we live, but the number one catastrophic event that Americans worry about is actually "economic collapse".
At least that is what a recent survey conducted by Leiflin Inc. for the EcoHealth Alliance found. But this goes along with what so many other polls have found over the past few years. Over and over again, opinion polls have found that the number one issue that American voters are concerned about is the economy. The truth is that average Americans are deeply, deeply concerned about unemployment, debt, the housing crash and the steady decline in the standard of living. It has been years since the U.S. economy has operated at a "normal" level, and many Americans are afraid that things could soon get a whole lot worse.

In the new survey mentioned above, those contacted were asked to select the top three potential catastrophes that worry them the most.

The following results come directly from the survey....

Economic Collapse: 63%
Natural Disaster: 46%
Terrorist Attack: 44%
Global Disease Outbreak: 33%
Global War: 27%
Nuclear Accident: 25%
Global Warming: 22%
Fuel Shortage: 15%
Cyber War: 8%
Famine: 8%
Oil Spill: 6%
Industrial Accident: 5%

As you can see, "economic collapse" was the winner by a wide margin.

So are there good reasons for the American people to be concerned about an economic collapse?

Of course there are.

Back in 2008, a financial crisis that began on Wall Street was felt in the farthest corners of the globe.

This time, ground zero for the financial crisis is going to be in Europe. As I have written about previously, the European financial system is rapidly coming apart at the seams. The euro continues to drop like a rock, and banking stocks continue their long-term decline.

Many people expect a "financial collapse" to happen on a particular day. But that is not how it happens usually. Instead, it is often like a snowball that starts rolling downhill very slowly at first but that eventually become a huge avalanche.

Right now, we are seeing the financial world come apart in slow motion. A recent article posted on Automatic Earth included a list of the year-to-date performance of some of the most prominent global banking stocks. These numbers are absolutely staggering....

BofA: -60.38%
Citi: -44.76%
Goldman Sachs: -46.41%
JPMorgan: -23.03%
Morgan Stanley: -45.24%
RBS: -50%
Barclays: -34.32%
Lloyds: -63.02%
UBS: -29.33%
Deutsche Bank: -28,55%
Crédit Agricole: -56.04%
BNP Paribas: -37.67%
Société Générale: -59.57%

But because these numbers happened over the course of a year and not on a single day it doesn't feel quite as much like a "collapse".

Unfortunately, things are about to get a whole lot worse. Global credit markets are really freezing up - especially in Europe.

Considering the fact that the entire global financial system is based on credit and debt, that is a very bad thing.

Our system simply does not work when banks do not want to lend money to each other or to businesses.

Just yesterday there was an article in the Guardian that talked about how it looks like the credit crunch may be getting even worse....

"If European banks are still this concerned, it's not a good sign," said Karl Schamotta, senior markets strategist with Western Union Business Solutions. "That underlines the possibility that this liquidity crunch is getting worse and will continue into the new year." When banks cut back on lending, that causes the money supply to shrink. When the money supply shrinks substantially, it is almost impossible to avoid a recession. A recent article by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard detailed how the money supply in many eurozone nations is shrinking at a very rapid pace right now....

Simon Ward from Henderson Global Investors said "narrow" M1 money – which includes cash and overnight deposits, and signals short-term spending plans – shows an alarming split between North and South.

While real M1 deposits are still holding up in the German bloc, the rate of fall over the last six months (annualised) has been 20.7pc in Greece, 16.3pc in Portugal, 11.8pc in Ireland, and 8.1pc in Spain, and 6.7pc in Italy. The pace of decline in Italy has been accelerating, partly due to capital flight. "This rate of contraction is greater than in early 2008 and implies an even deeper recession, both for Italy and the whole periphery," said Mr Ward. Those are very, very frightening numbers.

About the only thing propping up European banks right now is the fact that the European Central Bank is loaning them gigantic piles of cheap money.

But there is a big problem.

European banks are running out of collateral for those loans as an article in the Wall Street Journal recently noted....

Even after the European Central Bank doled out nearly half a trillion euros of loans to cash-strapped banks last week, fears about potential financial problems are still stalking the sector. One big reason: concerns about collateral.

The only way European banks can now convince anyone—institutional investors, fellow banks or the ECB—to lend them money is if they pledge high-quality assets as collateral.

Now some regulators and bankers are becoming nervous that some lenders' supplies of such assets, which include European government bonds and investment-grade non-government debt, are running low. So what happens when banks all over Europe start running out of collateral and can't get any more loans?

The answer should be obvious.

As I detailed a few days ago, many prominent voices in the financial world now believe that we could be looking at a financial crisis that will be even worse than 2008.

If you want to see what happens when a collapse happens and a depression begins, just look at what is happening in Greece....

*100,000 businesses have been closed since the beginning of the crisis.

*About a third of the nation is now living in poverty.

*The unemployment rate for those under the age of 24 is 39 percent.

*The number of suicides has increased by 40 percent in the past year.

*Thefts and burglaries nearly doubled between 2007 and 2009.

Things have gotten so bad that hundreds of families in Greece are abandoning their children.

Some are taking their children to charitable institutions and others are handing them directly over to the government.

The following sad story of one Greek family comes from an article in the Guardian....

"Psychologically we were all in a bit of a mess," said Gasparinatos. "We were sleeping on mattresses on the floor, the rent hadn't been paid for months, something had to be done."

And so, with Christmas approaching, the 42-year-old took the decision to put in an official request for three of his boys and one daughter to be taken into care.

"The crisis had killed us. I am ashamed to say but it had got to the point where I couldn't even afford the €2 needed to buy bread," he told the Guardian. "We didn't want to break up the family but we did think it would be easier for them if four of my children were sent to an institution for maybe two or three years." Does that seem shocking to you?

Well, all of this is coming to America eventually.

Someday we will see American parents abandoning their children because they cannot take care of them anymore.

Someday we will see suicides absolutely skyrocket in America because people have lost all hope.

Someday we will see thefts and burglaries soar to unprecedented heights as millions of desperate people attempt to try to find some way to survive.

It is all coming.

The federal government cannot pile up a trillion dollars of additional debt every year indefinitely.

We cannot afford to see an average of 23 manufacturing facilities a day in the United States shut down. Eventually there won't be anymore factories to shut down.

We cannot afford to keep putting millions more Americans on welfare. At this point the government is feeding 46 million Americans a month. Will the government eventually be feeding most of us?

The U.S. economy is getting weaker and weaker and weaker. All of the long-term trends are absolutely nightmarish. We are accumulating debt faster than ever, and our ability to produce wealth is diminishing faster than ever.

There is no way that things are going to be okay if we stay on the path that we are currently on.

So the truth is that Americans should be very concerned about an economic collapse.

It is coming and it is going to be very painful.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: catastrophy; collapse; dollarcollapse; economy; preppers; usbondcollapse; usdebt; usdefault

1 posted on 12/30/2011 4:32:37 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

I have worked lifetime and saved a few pennies.

I worry that when hyper inflation comes in ,as it certainly must, I will be wiped out. I worry that my grandchildren will have a future with no jobs and under Muslim Sharia law.

At 69 I don’t have too many worries about myself, if I can get another good ten years I will be ready.


2 posted on 12/30/2011 4:37:09 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Kartographer
The Thinly-Veiled Fed Bailout Of Europe
3 posted on 12/30/2011 4:39:26 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

A Happy New Year to you too.

My wife expressed some concern about my bulk buying of food. When I sat her down and took her through this step by step...her final response was, “Can we just organize it better?”

Dark clouds are over the world.


4 posted on 12/30/2011 4:39:38 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: blam

Thx for the ping! We have some family members old enough to remember the ‘29 crash and the Depression. They’ve planned accordingly and we’ve learned a lot from them :-)


5 posted on 12/30/2011 4:43:53 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: blam

What exactly would an ‘economic collapse’ be, and how would it occur? We still have all the farms, factories, mines, and offices, and all the people who work in them. They are real, and will continue to operate.

Now those bits on a chip, that come out on your bank statement every month, they may get into a bit of a tangle. But are we such wimps that we would allow our real physical wealth to be held hostage by a bunch of arbitrary digits?


6 posted on 12/30/2011 4:44:32 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user
"What exactly would an ‘economic collapse’ be, and how would it occur? We still have all the farms, factories, mines, and offices, and all the people who work in them. They are real, and will continue to operate. "

Economic Collapse

There is no precise definition of an economic collapse. While some might consider a a severe, prolonged depression with high bankruptcy rates and high unemployment an economic collapse, others would additionally look for a breakdown in normal commerce, such as hyperinfalation, or even a sharp increase in the death rate and perhaps even a decline in population. Often economic collapse is accompanied by social chaos, civil unrest and sometimes a breakdown of law and order.

7 posted on 12/30/2011 4:51:38 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
And yet the Pravda-MSM claims the economy is improving to cover for their incompetent liberal messiah.
8 posted on 12/30/2011 4:55:32 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: blam

Yesterday, after reading that over 1.5 million guns were sold in the USA in December, I commented to FrogDad, “I hope people are buying food to go with those guns.”

My fear is that they all are thinking that there are Preppers out there, they’ll just take what they need.

Thanks for the article.


9 posted on 12/30/2011 4:56:14 AM PST by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: blam

We the people have been put into this position, they are the root cause


10 posted on 12/30/2011 4:59:35 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Venturer

Obama getting a 2nd term or Pelosi by some evil becoming Prez would probably top all those worries, at least for me. Let us not forget: The Mayans predicted the world would end in 2012. We have probably one of, if the most important elections coming up in 2012. Coincidence? I think not. If the psycho Marxist wins a 2nd term will there be any argument that the world has ended?


11 posted on 12/30/2011 5:21:08 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Nancy Pelosi - The #1 reason why we need a Constitutional amendment for Congressional drug testing.)
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To: proxy_user
You ask how an economic collapse would manifest itself. Excellent question. Then you state that all the means of production are still in existence and seem to infer that life will go on as before. Well, yes and no.

The problem is that we are all tied together by those "bits on a chip". When MF Global went under many farmers were badly hit. They were using their MF Global accounts to hedge their production but far more importantly, they counted on being able to draw that money to finance their operations. When that money disappeared they couldn't buy seed, fertilizer, fuel, farm machinery, etc.

The same goes for factories and mines. If the banks close or the US$ is worthless domestically how do you pay your workers? How do people pay for your product? How do you pay for your supplies? How do you make money?

12 posted on 12/30/2011 5:25:23 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: blam
At this point the government is feeding 46 million Americans a month.

The amount of money that people I know who are receiving food stamps is hardly feeding them. Let's be honest. $20 or $30 a month won't "feed" people. A lot of people could lose their food stamps and it wouldn't be the end of the world for them.

13 posted on 12/30/2011 5:29:50 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Anyone see the democrat budget yet?)
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To: blam

As to the title... there is still hope! Maybe America is waking up again?

LLS


14 posted on 12/30/2011 5:39:42 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: proxy_user
When the Euro crashes or the EU collapses... and just looking at the present situation... I mean the only question is “when”? When that happens... well you know about the TARP funds funneled to EU banks... and we know that in the past two years... burnandyankme gave the EU banks 8 TRILLION dollars... in SECRET grants or loans at 0.010%... not a dime has been repaid... and add that to a devalued dollar and another 15.8 TRILLION in deficit spending... the result will become known as the Great Economic Collapse... and it will be world wide... we will never go away... but we will rebuild from the ground up... we have to.

LLS

15 posted on 12/30/2011 5:44:11 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: blam

They should be FAR more concerned about the spiritual collapse....that brings about all other problems.


16 posted on 12/30/2011 5:58:10 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ronnie raygun

“We the people have been put into this position, they are the root cause”

Maybe we the people ARE part of the problem. Look at how a huge segment of our people has abandoned God and His moral law.

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.... George Washington

“And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.... Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail to the exclusion of religious principle.” ...George Washington

“It is substantially true that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government.” ...George Washington


17 posted on 12/30/2011 6:06:46 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Vermont Lt
My wife expressed some concern about my bulk buying of food. When I sat her down and took her through this step by step...her final response was, “Can we just organize it better?”

I know you were being serious but that is one of the funniest posts I've ever read.

It looks like your wife has superb negotiating skills but she knows when to modify her expectations. I bet you've been married a long time.

18 posted on 12/30/2011 6:15:25 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: blam

Bump for later digestion.


19 posted on 12/30/2011 6:27:37 AM PST by voicereason (The average American doesn't need sex......Obama is already screwing them daily.)
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To: proxy_user
"What exactly would an ‘economic collapse’ be, and how would it occur? We still have all the farms, factories, mines, and offices, and all the people who work in them. They are real, and will continue to operate. Now those bits on a chip, that come out on your bank statement every month, they may get into a bit of a tangle. But are we such wimps that we would allow our real physical wealth to be held hostage by a bunch of arbitrary digits?"

Looking FORWARD to 2012! HAPPY NEW YEAR, everyone!

December 28, 2011

America's Greatness Will Defeat Obama By William L. Gensert

bttt

20 posted on 12/30/2011 6:46:41 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: blam

Every person that I can get to listen, (and has half a clue), I tell them to look around and see what is going on. I tell them they MUST be ready, or they and their families will perish.

All those who are totally dependent on the government for food, lodging, and all the trappings of entitlement living are going to perish. How many others they kill and eat before they go, is yet unknown.

I was in one of the local sheriff’s officer recently and there were 30 people getting or renewing their concealed carry.

People are preparing.


21 posted on 12/30/2011 7:28:42 AM PST by Molon Labbie (Occupiers- The world is watching....and alternatively laughing and vomiting)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Where did the freezer go who told us last year all the TARP money was paid back?


22 posted on 12/30/2011 7:45:20 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ladyjane

We just hit 25 years. It all came about because she wanted to use my case of diced tomatoes to make salsa for her friends. Of course it was no problem....except she did not want to replace it. That, and she didn’t make any for me.


23 posted on 12/30/2011 10:21:25 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Molon Labbie
Avoiding The Danger Zones In The Year Ahead
24 posted on 12/30/2011 12:40:11 PM PST by blam
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To: SumProVita


25 posted on 12/30/2011 1:24:02 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: blam
Buy some while it still is relativly cheap.


26 posted on 12/30/2011 7:48:56 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: wastoute

Yep and gm is out of debt... NOT! Man they can lie.

LLS


27 posted on 12/31/2011 9:53:55 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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