[muir_redwoods]

The basis for libertarianism is the single precept, "Initiate no force against another". Like the premise of Christianity, it has been misused by many and strictly observed by few. To take taxes from a supposedly free person is to initiate force against that person; to defend oneself is not to initiate force. To arrest some fool for smoking dope is to initiate force in an attept to keep him from making stupid choices. That's none of my business; let the fool smoke dope, that's why they call it that.

You don't have yo agree with it but it doesn't hurt to understand it a bit.

[Aevery_Freeman]

Well-stated rebuttal.

No matter what your source of moral authority, it best not be government for government holds no good, just a gun.

Government is designed to protect your rights, moral principles are up to you.

There has also been a great deal scope creep in American governance. It applies to adult citizens that ascribe to our creed only. It does not have any control over children be they school-age or unborn. That is within the purview of the states' police power.