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Americans cheered Gen. Patton when he urinated on the enemy
Fellowship of the Minds (Conservatives who love America) ^ | January 12, 2012 | Robert K. Wilcox

Posted on 01/13/2012 9:51:48 PM PST by Windflier

The last soldier I heard of urinating on the enemy was Gen. George S. Patton. Should the general, who, as much as any other, was responsible for defeating the Nazis, have been driven from the military for such an act? You’d think so from the hysteric response building in the mainstream and Left-leaning press to a video allegedly showing marines urinating on dead Taliban fighters. Presuming it’s authentic, such reaction is absurd.

We send these young men out to kill and maim their enemy. That means snuffing out their life, with all the heartbreak and tragedy involved. They usually do this with bullets that rip and tear; or larger projectiles like grenades, artillery shells, or air-dropped bombs which can shred or disintegrate a body. Often fire is involved. Is urinating on a dead body worse?

Yet as I write, I can feel the hope and purpose in a headline like AOL-Huffington Post’s, “Outrage over Purported Marine Video: A shocking video that allegedly shows American soldiers performing a ‘disgusting’ act sparks a US Marine Corps investigation.” It’s already tagged under “atrocities” and “war crimes.” What the headline writers are really saying is, “Oh please, please, another Mai Lai Massacre type scandal like in Vietnam. Well, we know it’s not going to be that big, but we can again throw bad light on the US military, which we basically hate and fear and are mad at for doing all the bad things they do.”

Of course they’ve gone to the Council on American-Islamic Relations for comment. As if they didn’t know they’d get a condemnation. But did they balance it with someone at war with the Taliban? Not a chance. And the statement says, “The video shows behavior…totally unbecoming of American military personnel and that would ultimately endanger other soldiers and civilians.”

It’s so predictable, petty, and blown out of proportion by a media that largely knows nothing of the battlefield and why a crude but ultimately innocuous act like this might happen. What do they expect in war? Tea and crumpets and the Marquess of Queensbury rules? War is hell. Most of those fighting it are young, usually 18 to 22. They are inexperienced. They are sent to deserts and other uninhabitable places with stinging insects, maddening heat and sanitary conditions the Left would be screaming was child abuse. They forge a bond with each other few peacetime friendships can ever hope to equal. They have to. It’s the only way to get through. And some of them, if not more, see that bonded friend killed or mutilated as only war can do it.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: patton; taliban; war
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Patton urinating into the Rhine

1 posted on 01/13/2012 9:52:00 PM PST by Windflier
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To: Windflier

Hey Windflier, thats feeding the trolls!

I bet some are getting all excited.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 9:54:09 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Windflier

Screw the Taliban. Let them eat urinal cakes...


3 posted on 01/13/2012 9:55:45 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Windflier

Personally, I have no problem with them pissing on these guys. At least they didn’t do the twist off the head thing and the whole neck spelunking...THAT would have been a sight. Anyone got a picture of our guys they dragged through the streets, hung from a bridge then lit them up like TIKI TORCHES? no...short term memory loss, I guess. Or is it that we don’t want to be barbaric with the bomb vest r us crowd?

PS

Hey guys, really...you filmed it? THAT is what you should be embarrassed about.


4 posted on 01/13/2012 9:57:55 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: Windflier

Winston Churchill also urinated in the Rhine.


5 posted on 01/13/2012 9:59:05 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: jessduntno

They should be collecting scalps like Aldo Rayne in Inglourious Basterds.


6 posted on 01/13/2012 9:59:41 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Windflier

Like Mark Levin was saying tonight, it’s an outrage to the left when Marines piss on the Taliban but not when OWS protestors shiet on cop cars. No, they get an endorsement from Noobama and Nazi Pelosi.


7 posted on 01/13/2012 9:59:54 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Illegal aliens do not belong in the USA. Deport Obama.)
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To: unkus

Winston Churchill also urinated in the Rhine.

Ahhh...the good old days...our leaders used to be real pissers.


8 posted on 01/13/2012 10:00:14 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: Windflier

What passes for shocking these days is piss poor.

It seems to me if you can kill a man you can damn well take a leak afterward, and you can damn well say have a good day, buddy.


9 posted on 01/13/2012 10:00:31 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Eye of Unk
thats feeding the trolls! I bet some are getting all excited.

Can't wait for them to out themselves. Piss on 'em.

10 posted on 01/13/2012 10:00:57 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: americanophile

Oh my.........................just love that idea!!!!!!!!!!!!! hehehehehhe I am for it after they have been used!!!


11 posted on 01/13/2012 10:02:07 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: jessduntno

Ahhh...the good old days...our leaders used to be real pissers.


Many were. Many weren’t.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 10:03:41 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: jessduntno
Anyone got a picture of our guys they dragged through the streets....?


13 posted on 01/13/2012 10:04:24 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jessduntno

And George Patton publically stated that he’d “..personally shoot that paper hanging sonofabitch Hitler”.


14 posted on 01/13/2012 10:06:24 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Windflier

Keep in mind that this is the vicious and oppressive Talaban.

A group that routinely tortured gays and oppress women and genitally mutilated 1000s of girls.

Don’t mean to excuse what the soldiers did, since it is not gallant to desecrate bodies of war dead.

But, if your buddy was killed by these inhuman Talaban oppressors, you might be tempted to act viciously in response too.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 10:06:59 PM PST by garjog (If Not Newt, Who?)
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To: Williams
What passes for shocking these days is piss poor.

The left is perpetually shocked by the behavior of honest, patriotic people. They have no idea. If the SHTF, they're going to be shocked right out of their insanity.

16 posted on 01/13/2012 10:07:13 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

To frighten other slaves from revolting, Crassus crucified 6,000 of Spartacus’ men along the Appian Way from Capua to Rome.


17 posted on 01/13/2012 10:07:46 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Windflier

I say piss on them ALL dead OR alive. Compared to some of the images I have of THEIR handiwork, they should consider getting pissed on merciful.


18 posted on 01/13/2012 10:09:55 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Windflier

BRAVO!

I’m sick to amost death, of this PC crap.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 10:10:33 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Windflier

BRAVO!

I’m sick to almost death, of this PC crap.


20 posted on 01/13/2012 10:10:45 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Windflier

Did Patton piss on enemy corpses? I doubt it. Do you think the parents and grandparents in America of the 1940’s would have cheered at a photo of him doing so? Maybe a few.


21 posted on 01/13/2012 10:12:20 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: garjog
Keep in mind that this is the vicious and oppressive Talaban. A group that routinely tortured gays and oppress women and genitally mutilated 1000s of girls.

I think the author put this incident into its correct perspective. Our guys are being killed in the war against the Taliban. No one yet knows whether these guys just watched some of their brothers get blown apart by the very guys they pissed on.

Even if they didn't lose any on that particular day, it's a sure bet that they lost comrades to the enemy on previous days. And, sometimes in the most brutal, barbarian ways.

I refuse to condemn them for what they did. Islamic jihadists have done much worse to the bodies of dead Americans.

I think General Patton would approve, don't you?

22 posted on 01/13/2012 10:14:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jpsb

Genghis survived to unite the Mongolian tribes and conquer territories as far apart as Afghanistan and northern China. He left a mountain of skulls that remained for years in China.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 10:16:01 PM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb
To frighten other slaves from revolting, Crassus crucified 6,000 of Spartacus’ men along the Appian Way from Capua to Rome.

War is hell.

24 posted on 01/13/2012 10:16:24 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MestaMachine
I say piss on them ALL dead OR alive. Compared to some of the images I have of THEIR handiwork, they should consider getting pissed on merciful.

Hear, hear. I'm sick to death of the left condemning every freaking thing our troops do in the life and death situation they're in. All of these tofu eating couch potatoes can kiss my ass.

If it were up to me, there wouldn't be much left of the M.E. right now.

I support our troops, and I support America!

25 posted on 01/13/2012 10:20:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jpsb

As Sherman’s men pushed southeast, they systematically destroyed all manufacturing plants, agricultural infrastructure, and railroads they encountered. A common technique for wrecking the latter was heating railroad rails over fires and twisting them around trees. Known as “Sherman’s Neckties,”


26 posted on 01/13/2012 10:21:27 PM PST by jpsb
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To: onyx
BRAVO! I’m sick to amost death, of this PC crap.

You and me both, Onyx. I've been fighting a running battle with a Paulbot on Facebook all night over this incident. Naturally, he condemns what those Marines did, while I take the Patton view.

I wouldn't have cared if our guys shucked their trousers and took a dump on those dead Taliban. What they did isn't even partial payback for 9/11, Mogadishu, Ft Hood, and all the rest.

27 posted on 01/13/2012 10:25:31 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Give the marines medals that pissed on the taliban!

Give them an addiional medal if they go back and crap on them!


28 posted on 01/13/2012 10:26:02 PM PST by dalereed
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To: jessduntno
Personally, I have no problem with them pissing on these guys.

Exactly. These people are trying to kill us and our soldiers. A little bit of "in your face" is good for moral. This is a very direct, if crude, way of illustrating the better soldier won, you don't want to {expletive} with me, you don't want to {expletive} with the United States. Bravo men, bravo.

29 posted on 01/13/2012 10:26:46 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Windflier

Patton - the greatest general of all.


30 posted on 01/13/2012 10:27:57 PM PST by microgood
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To: jessduntno

Excellent comparison. If our military gets to the point where the young men being asked to put their lives on the line in actual combat have to read Emily Post before and after the killing we no longer can have an effective fighting/killing force. Of course there seem to be many who in this Nation believe in such a situation. As a young infantry trained G.I. in WWII (I just missed the last battle by a month or so) we often expressed ourselves with a time used phrase. I felt more so because my only older brother was killed in the that last battle. I’m sure ground soldiers on both sides of deadly combat have tremendous amounts of hate built up within themselves. That is war.


31 posted on 01/13/2012 10:29:06 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Windflier

Thanks for reminding me about Ft. Hood.

Hasan still breathes, imagine that?


32 posted on 01/13/2012 10:29:31 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: jpsb

Some 70,000–80,000 people, or some 30% of the population of Hiroshima were killed immediately,[69] and another 70,000 injured.[70] Over 90% of the doctors and 93% of the nurses in Hiroshima were killed or injured—most had been in the downtown area which received the greatest damage.


33 posted on 01/13/2012 10:31:39 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Windflier

I wasn’t upset about troops pissing on dead Taliban that were prior, trying to kill them.

I don’t have problems either with homeowners who kick the dead corpse of a burglar or attacker they’ve dispatched.


34 posted on 01/13/2012 10:34:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Windflier

So rivers are “the enemy”?

Wow.


35 posted on 01/13/2012 10:35:05 PM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Did Patton piss on enemy corpses? I doubt it. Do you think the parents and grandparents in America of the 1940’s would have cheered at a photo of him doing so? Maybe a few.

We don't know how much of Patton's war record has been sanitized out of the history books. I know enough about him to know that he was as politically incorrect as they come, and wasn't squeamish about killing the enemy, nor of beating him down in any way imaginable. The man understood the concept of war better than anyone in our current pc-infested bureaucracy.

Did Patton have to deal with an enemy as debased and degraded as the Taliban? No, he didn't. The Nazis back in Berlin may have been monsters, but the guys he fought on the battlefield were soldiers just like him. If he'd had to fight the Taliban, he might have ordered his guys to do a whole lot worse than piss on their war dead.

36 posted on 01/13/2012 10:39:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jpsb

When the walls finally gave in, the Macedonians poured their anger over the city defenders - 7,000 people were killed, 30,000 were sold as slaves. Alexander entered the temple of Melcart, and had his sacrifice.


37 posted on 01/13/2012 10:40:04 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Windflier

Instead of building hospitals and factories for the enemy, Paton put the enemy into hospitals and blew up their factories.

The WWII generation did what ever it took to win because winning meant survival for our nation.

Here is Paton’s speaking to the third army before D Day. I don’t hear him being sensitive to the enemy.

“We’ll win this war, but we’ll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we’ve got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We’re not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we’re going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks.

...I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed.”


38 posted on 01/13/2012 10:43:23 PM PST by garjog (If Not Newt, Who?)
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To: jpsb

War is hell.

Stop beating around the bush, and come right out and condemn the Marines like you want to.


39 posted on 01/13/2012 10:44:57 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jpsb

Sir, having brought the army of the Parliament of England before this place, to reduce it to obedience, to the end that the effusion of blood may be prevented, I thought fit to summon you to deliver the same into my hands to their use. If this be refused, you will have no cause to blame me. I expect your answer and remain your servant,
—O. Cromwell


40 posted on 01/13/2012 10:45:09 PM PST by jpsb
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To: dalereed
Give the marines medals that pissed on the taliban! Give them an addiional medal if they go back and crap on them!

I just said something similar upthread. People need to walk a mile in those Marines' boots before they condemn them.

41 posted on 01/13/2012 10:46:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

WTF, I am a Marine, you fight to win, period.


42 posted on 01/13/2012 10:47:58 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Windflier

They should make it a rule to smear lard on every obne of them they kill!!!


43 posted on 01/13/2012 10:48:12 PM PST by dalereed
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To: microgood
Patton - the greatest general of all.

Without a doubt (despite that shameful incident with the Bonus Army).

44 posted on 01/13/2012 10:48:12 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Williams

“if you can kill a man you can damn well take a leak afterward”

Oh, I hope that the bullet that shattered the scull of that Taliban’s head was produced in a sensitive and culturally appropriate manner so not to offend the highly advanced Muslim value system because then they might really be upset with us and start hating Americans even more!


45 posted on 01/13/2012 10:49:25 PM PST by garjog (If Not Newt, Who?)
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To: BenKenobi
Thanks for reminding me about Ft. Hood. Hasan still breathes, imagine that?

I try not to. It's an injustice that he hasn't already been executed by firing squad.

46 posted on 01/13/2012 10:51:16 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: willamedwardwallace
So rivers are “the enemy”? Wow.

You've obviously completely missed the significance of what Patton did.

47 posted on 01/13/2012 10:53:13 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I was just giving accounts of great warriors and great commanders that won and how they won. War is not PC and if you try to fight PC you will be lucky to win. War is breaking the enemies will to fight and that sometimes required brutal tactics.


48 posted on 01/13/2012 10:53:19 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Windflier
Exactly so! The Taliban is offended?

Good! Delighted! LOL.

Too bad our brave Marines recorded it. That's all.

49 posted on 01/13/2012 10:57:58 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: garjog
Instead of building hospitals and factories for the enemy, Paton put the enemy into hospitals and blew up their factories. The WWII generation did what ever it took to win because winning meant survival for our nation.

Sadly, our nation's leaders no longer have the stomach to let warriors do what warriors have always done. That is - kill the enemy, and destroy his homeland, without reservation, hesitation, and without pulling any punches.

Do not call for warriors, if you don't intend to make war.

50 posted on 01/13/2012 10:58:07 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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