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To: Kansas58
You have all stated that Congress had NO power to change the rules for “Citizenship at Birth” at some time or another.

This a fabrication. If this were true, then we would all be arguing that the 14th amendment is invalid. The argument is about natural-born citizenship, not "citizenship at birth." The Supreme Court said NBC is defined OUTSIDE of the Constitution. The law can't touch this unless the Constitution is specifically amended to redefine this specific term.

Also, you can not show that Madison or any of the Founders agreed with your version of the Constitutional language.

Do you suffer from memory loss too?? I've already shown that Madison argued a combination of jus soli AND jus sanguinis to make a colleague into a citizen. How the hell does that NOT agree with the definition of NBC: born in the country to citizen parents???

Without defining legislation, perhaps two citizen parents were required at one time. Now we have defining legislation and such is not required.

There's no defining legislation for NBC. The SCOTUS affirmed this on TWO occasions.

Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at the Moment of Birth.

Wrong. NBC means "all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens." What you're citing is only a reference to an independent characterization of British common law by a legal historian. It is NOT a legal definition, and it was certainly never accepted by the court to define NBC.

You can find nothing from any of delegate to the Constitutional Convention that shows: ....

Madison is on my side. John Jay is on my side. George Washington is on my side. The historian and founding father David Ramsay is on my side. The SCOTUS is on my side ... several times over.

66 posted on 02/10/2012 10:43:41 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919
The 14th Amendment is a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, not simple legislation at all.

Madison said that we need go no further than to show that the person in question was born on US Soil, so you fail again on that point.

You INVENT support when it is not there.

This is why no elected official is on your side, in this argument. You are wasting your time, which is your right to do.

However, more and more conservatives will begin to object to the waste of time and money and effort you request, of the conservative movement for this Quixotic adventure of yours.

67 posted on 02/10/2012 11:48:27 AM PST by Kansas58
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