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String Theory Skeptics and Multiverse Mania
Not Even Wrong ^ | 02/21/2012 | Peter Woit

Posted on 02/23/2012 7:32:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: varmintman; Harlan1196
Odds are that life is so incredibly complex, particularly when it comes to the self-assembly part, that it arose much more than 13 billion years ago. I think we want to talk in terms of "universes ago", not just years.

So we have a single cell with a loaded strand of DNA and it ends up someplace where it can DO STUFF. It doesn't evolve ~ instead, it taps into the universal vacuum and gets information it needs to survive. Starting with that it unwraps itself into the vast complexity of the biosphere.

We'll understand that once we figure out how to use DNA strands as super computers.

61 posted on 02/24/2012 3:36:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I’m actually more of the opinion that the future is knowable, and to an extent, known. Time travel is not only possible but is part of history; we just don’t know where to look for it yet. To delve into the difficult-to-avoid religious undertones of it all, the much derided Protestant concept of predistination will ultimately be proved scientifically sound by time travel. Time is not fragile, there is no paradox.


62 posted on 02/24/2012 3:47:20 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You start showing us real Higgs Bosons and maybe there’s a chance. No Higgs, no chance.


63 posted on 02/24/2012 4:09:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Both these ideas are dead ends.

Future progress will result from applying quantum ideas to space and gravity.

Loop quantum gravity shows promise.


64 posted on 02/24/2012 4:18:34 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: EEGator

i know you were kidding

:)


65 posted on 02/24/2012 4:56:00 PM PST by U-238
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To: ckilmer

Newton remained part of the Anglican establishment for the majority of his life.


66 posted on 02/24/2012 4:57:50 PM PST by U-238
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To: ckilmer

You are in essence correct.


67 posted on 02/24/2012 4:59:12 PM PST by U-238
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To: 6SJ7

If nothing else, it aligns with muawiyah’s frothiness above perfectly.

I’m no scientist or math guy. I can barely do complex fractions much less anything trig/calculus. But as a regular schmuck that reads pop sci books on these matters, I just wonder why the ‘model’ we see from above the plank scale (things orbiting other things) repeats out to the galctic/universal scale. Why should it logically stop there?

I’m not saying there are micro humans living on hydrogen atoms, but what if we are micro humans ourselves and our universe is but one ‘hydrogen atom, or quark or whatever?

If you do that zoom-out on our universe I mentioned earlier, the pattern would seem to indicate it is part of something larger. ‘Logically’ at least, due to the repeating pattern.

And I’m not even on Acid ....mannnnn ;)


68 posted on 02/24/2012 7:30:21 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Condor51

My Charvel 5FX W/Floyd and Duncans belies your string theory and substitutes the one true guitar ;)


69 posted on 02/24/2012 7:32:51 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: muawiyah

Can’t remember if it was Thorne or Hoyle but one of them discussed that at some length in a book I had. Kaiku has also discussed it in “Hyperspace” if I remember right.


70 posted on 02/24/2012 7:36:32 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart
*** My Charvel 5FX W/Floyd and Duncans belies your string theory and substitutes the one true guitar ;) ***

Well, I'll see you your Charvel and raise you with my 'vintage' 1986 Candy Apple Red Strat. ALSO with a Flyod Rose double locking Trem that proves String Theory.
;-)

BTW: Nice axe there. But not exactly for my kind of music (I'm a semi-old geezer). And I like the small fretboard radius of Fenders. I can't do 12" or combo 16" tapered fret boards, 9½ is it for me (small hands). The exception is for my Delta King OE30 (for Blues) which is a almost a mirror copy of the '59 Gibson ES-335 (Red) I *once owned* while in HS way back when (I could buy a car with that guitar now (kicking-self)). That OE30 has a 12" radius and that I can play - weird (maybe it's the 24¾ scale?).

pps: I'm sure you know that Fender now owns Charvel Guitars

71 posted on 02/25/2012 4:43:41 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: varmintman

Since the biological mechanism for microevolution is the same as for macroevolution what’s the difference? All evolution takes place at the molecular level. Given enough time micro becomes macro. No one has ever proposed a rational biological mechanism that prevents microevolution turning into macroevolution.


72 posted on 02/25/2012 5:12:57 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Condor51

Yes yes....Strats...meh....It’s not like any good music ever came out of one ...And of course a Charvel/Jackson being the definitive “Superstrat” naturally makes it far superior! (well maybe not...OK definitely not. Strats do indeed rock ;)

I’ve played a couple and they just aren’t for me. Not a big single coil fan (my 5 actually has a HotRail bucker in the neck - I couldn’t handle the noise of the stock single) and the standard Strat neck just seems too small/thin for me. Never played a boatneck Strat though. BTW, I’ll see your Candy Apple and raise you a Firecrackle and a Gold Floyd!

I remember when the announcement came on Fender. The C/J board was split. We thought it was either the end and C/Js would get the ‘bargain Walmart guitar’ treatment or that they’d do ‘something’ great with the brand. Thank God they did something great. Of course they price them just as great...but the quality is most definitely there.

But the old Model series is still out there on Ebay and every bit a Jackson Soloist clone. And that ani’t nuttin’ but good if someone likes shredder guitars on the relative cheap.

My first was actually an 85-86ish Squire Tobacco P bass. Wish I still had it actually. Had a Gibson Firebrand LP that was my “Damn fool” guitar. Damn fool sold it!


73 posted on 02/25/2012 5:22:36 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: garjog

When to radically different approaches arrive at the same answer. I’d say you have a pretty good shot at the right answer!


74 posted on 02/25/2012 5:29:24 AM PST by Reily
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To: Norm Lenhart
The great thing about guitars is the vast choices we have today for literally everyones taste and playing style. Like for you the Fender neck's to thin, for me it's perfect. Ditto for the PUPS, some like Single Coils some only Humbuckers. So fender (and others) have went with the times and players wishes after seeing the mods they've made and now offer options: SSS, HSS, etc. Even with the Tele - mine is Standard with two single coils but I could have went another way if I wanted.

For Christmas I bought myself a new present, guitar #7 -- the Fender Blacktop Jaguar HH and has a 24" scale length neck, and is now my 'favorite' (I keep my Strat mostly away and safe). When I saw that new Jag, it took me back to 1964 and the Fender 'student models' and Surf Guitars. And the Music Store where I was taking lessons and they had a Tobacco Sunburst Strat and a 'student model' Mustang in the case. So I just *had to* have it. With its short scale and two "Hot Vintage Alnico Humbuckers" it's *almost* like a Strat and Les Paul mated and had a baby ;-). And that puppy sounds great, plays great, and is LOUD even with my crappy Amps(1).

And then there's always the 'great' Strat vs LP battle which may never end. But I don't discriminate, I recently saw by chance the Epi Widkat and drooled when I saw that Bigsby Trem, and Dwayne Eddy's Twang started playing in my head. So I may get that after the Amp.

And I bet we all have that “Damn fool” guitar. My Barber who plays, he's an LP guy, said he was sold one of his early ones and kicks himself for doing it as it's worth a small fortune today too.

(1) New, better, Amp is next. A Vox Valvetronix+ VT40+ (60Watts), Fender Mustang II (40 Watts) or maybe the Mustang III (100Watts). Not sure if I need 100 Watts though.

75 posted on 02/25/2012 6:55:52 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Harlan1196
Since the biological mechanism for microevolution is the same as for macroevolution what’s the difference? All evolution takes place at the molecular level. Given enough time micro becomes macro. No one has ever proposed a rational biological mechanism that prevents microevolution turning into macroevolution.

The mechanism is called the laws of mathematics and probability.

76 posted on 02/25/2012 7:04:55 AM PST by varmintman
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To: varmintman

So show me the math. Show me the paper that outlines that argument. I keep hearing about, now I would like to read it.


77 posted on 02/25/2012 7:07:36 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Condor51

Variety is indeed a beautiful thing. Even considering the price of an American Strat or a new LP, the value is still pretty darn good as well. You are getting a genuine ‘instrument’ that will last forever and not ‘need’ to be rebuilt with aftermarket everything to sound great...but you can if you want to ;)

I always liked the look of a Mustang but never had the pleasure. I got into computer music a couple years back and don’t play out (just to entertain myself really as my youth stayed in the 80s ;) so I am content with my one and only.

I recently sold my amp (Marshall, what else?) as with the computer stuff, and what I actually do, there wasn’t much need, but if I ever come across a Metaltronix M-1000 (Lee Jackson) cheap, I’m there. A Soldano SLO would definately give me a happy too.

Hard to argue with a good set of tubes, but the modeling stuff has come so far that it’s a great deal and has very good tone compared to even a few years ago.

Too many ‘want’ems’ and not enough ‘wampum’ ;)

But with the computer I now have discovered the joys of VST synths and haZ a burning lust for a real 80s Roland Jupiter 8...a mere $7,000 used...IF you can find one.


78 posted on 02/25/2012 7:26:29 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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