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just wondering...IF your amended bc showed the name of a mother who wasn’t your mother, might you see a different outcome?

The "mother's name" on both documents is different on my birth certificates.

You are relating your personal experience to circumstances that may be nothing like your own.

I think it is only because of my personal experience that I am even looking in this direction. Had I known nothing of the details of an adoption, such an answer would not have even occurred to me. I must point out, that I am not the only one who thinks Obama was adopted by his Grandparents. (Later legally annulled, thus the new document.)

There’s no way you can know when and by whom

Everything is surmised based on what seems to be KNOWN facts.
1. Indonesian law seems to make adoption of children under five automatic.
2. After 1971 Obama lived with his Grandparents.
3. His birth document appears to be a forgery of recent vintage.
4. Hawaii does not disown it.

What makes sense of it all? This adoption theory seems to. It is both Legal *AND* fake. If you have any familiarity with the theory of Quantum Mechanics, this idea is not so difficult to grasp. The "cat" is both dead and alive at the same time. :)

So tell me, Schrodinger’s cat notwithstanding, when did he become Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah?

Which he must have been at some time, for there to exist a need to have that name removed from her passport in August 1968.

Did he accompany SAD to Indonesia or elsewhere UNDER THAT NAME in July 1965 when her passport application was dated?

“1. Indonesian law seems to make adoption of children under five automatic.”

This is interesting because of the constant incorrect claim that SAD and Soetoro where married in 1967. That was ‘the line’ (and still is mostly). This blatantly incorrect date was obviously feed to the media time and time again. No attempt to correct it appears to have been made.

1967 makes Obama 6 years old.
1865 makes the date 3 or 4 years old. Thus the automatic adoption kicks in.

Also, one of the very few ways to annul this is for the birth father to ‘reclaim’ the adopted child. And in 1971 that is likely why Obama Senior was needed in Hawaii.

It is reported that he stayed in an apartment in the same building as the Dunhams and that they paid for that and his travel while he was there. He basically was the Dunhams guest on that trip.

It does feel like we are dealing with the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle!