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To: Seizethecarp
\ “A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth..“

This is untrue because it was not the INS practice at all:

My female friend was born in Mexico in 1946 of a US citizen [who was in USA at time of her birth many years except for short sojourn to Mexico to get married there] and a Mexican national mother. Her other siblings were born in USA, thus citizens thru the father and place of birth.

But she had to file every year with INS as resident alien. In order to acquire US citizenship she had to renounce her Mexican citizenship.

This is true because every year since 1965 as paralegal I reviewed her INS alien residency documents before she filed them with INS. She never renounced her Mexican citizenship and still is an alien resident.

There probably thousands of these INS cases from the 40`s and 50`s and 1960`s that prove this practice of the INS.

The proof is in the INS archives, not some ignoramus judge who doesn`t even do any research into the actual practices of the INS going back scores of years.

23 posted on 03/11/2012 10:42:59 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Aliens are not Americans``?? Who knew?)
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To: bunkerhill7; snowsislander
The situations you each describe appear to involve foreign citizen mothers whose children of US citizen fathers are treated differently than children of a US citizen mother and a foreign father. The Marguet-Pillado dicta doesn't seem to indicate any difference, which is contrary to precedent rulings, apart from the NBC issue.

SCOTUS has affirmed that is not impermissible gender discrimination for US statutes to make the foreign-born children of US citizen mothers statutory citizens at birth while making the foreign-born children of US citizen fathers, such as the children of US servicemen conceived while abroad, jump through hoops following the birth, such as requiring proof of blood relationship or acknowledgment of paternity.

MILLER v. ALBRIGHT, SCOTUS 1998

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/96-1060.ZS.html

Per Justice Stevens writing for the majority:

(b) The §1409(a)(4) rule applicable to each class of out-of-wedlock children born abroad is eminently reasonable and justified by important Government interests: ensuring reliable proof that a person born out of wedlock who claims citizenship by birth actually shares a blood relationship with an American citizen; encouraging the development of a healthy relationship between the citizen parent and the child while the child is a minor; and fostering ties between the child and the United States. Male and female parents of foreign-born, out-of-wedlock children are differently situated in several pertinent respects. The child’s blood relationship to its birth mother is immediately obvious and is typically established by hospital records and birth certificates, but the relationship to the unmarried father may often be undisclosed and unrecorded in any contemporary public record. Similarly, the child’s birth mother certainly knows of the child’s existence and typically will have immediate custody, whereas, due to the normal interval of nine months between conception and birth, an unmarried father may not even know that his child exists, and the child may not know the father’s identity. Section 1409(a)(4)’s requirement–that children born out of wedlock to citizen fathers obtain formal proof of paternity by age 18, either through legitimation, written acknowledgment by the father under oath, or adjudication by a competent court–is well tailored to address these concerns. The conclusion that Congress may require an affirmative act by unmarried fathers and their children, but not mothers and their children, is directly supported by Lehr v. Robertson, 463 U.S. 248. Pp. 11—20.

(c) The argument that §1409(a)(4) is unconstitutional because it is a stereotypical “gender-based classification” must be rejected. None of the governmental interests underlying §1409(a)(4) can be fairly characterized as an accidental byproduct of a traditional way of thinking about the members of either sex. The biological differences between single men and single women provide a relevant basis for differing rules governing their ability to confer citizenship on children born out of wedlock in foreign lands, and an impartial analysis of those differences rebuts the strong presumption that gender-based legal distinctions are suspect. Pp. 20—24.

53 posted on 03/11/2012 3:35:29 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: bunkerhill7

So when Barry Soetoro renounced his US citizenship and became an Indonesian in order to attend the Madrassa, does this affect his citizenship according to your logic?


66 posted on 03/11/2012 8:14:54 PM PDT by willyd (your credibility deficit is screwing up my bs meter...)
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