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1 posted on 03/11/2012 9:34:30 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: Progressives can revise history in real time

2 posted on 03/11/2012 9:37:04 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The popularity of Justin Beiber is proof the world is too stupid to continue.


3 posted on 03/11/2012 9:37:41 AM PDT by mnehring
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I’ve written a book called “Surviving Civil War II” that goes into the details of the progressive attempt to destroy our Constitutional Republic. We are already in a war over the indentured debt slavery of our children to the welfare state. The Left doesn’t wear Che T-shirts because they want to join the Mickey Mouse Club.
http://www.futurnamics.com/civilwar.php


9 posted on 03/11/2012 9:50:58 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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The next revolution is three missed meals away.


12 posted on 03/11/2012 9:56:48 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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any time you read a news article with phrases ending in “justice” there’s a Progressive at Play.

I’m seeing way too many in my local paper - everyone here needs to post on the comment sections of local newspaper websites - the progressives/liberals are there doing it - if we don’t....no one else will.

Expose it

Give them the “Gong”


14 posted on 03/11/2012 9:56:54 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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What does “The Day the music died” mean

It's the day that "Drove my Chevy to the levee" became "Drive a Prius so they see us."

17 posted on 03/11/2012 10:08:46 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (How bad would an Obama II administration be, without the constraints of re-election?)
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Very interesting post, I thought I knew all the cultural references in that song, but I learned a lot of new things.


23 posted on 03/11/2012 11:39:04 AM PDT by Ham Hock
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Mark.


26 posted on 03/11/2012 1:01:55 PM PDT by BikerTrash
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There are at least 3 levels of meaning in that song, it’s pretty deep. The whole “Buddy Holly” interpretation is just superficial, this political/historical one hits on some of the deeper elements, but beyond that there is a lot of Biblical symbolism that McLean might have used to convey yet another message.

Just a few examples:

“I can’t remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride”

Widowed bride, as in the Bride of the Lamb who was slain, the Church. One can read about this bride in the Bible, of course. He can’t remember if he cried, but something touched him deep inside when he read the Bible, in other words, his spirit was moved.

“Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry”

Since “chevy” can also mean “torment”, and “levee” can be rendered as “Levi”, this verse could mean “Took my torment to the Levi (the priest) but the priest was dry (depleted). The power of the Levites was depleted when Christ institued the New Covenant.

“Did you write the book of love”

The “Book of Love” can easily be as descriptive of the Bible, God’s book of His love for mankind. From that perspective, the questioner may be doubting whether God really wrote the Bible, and the doubter’s questions are continued in the next verses:

“And do you have faith in God above
If the Bible tells you so?”

This faith based on the Bible is contrasted with the modern-day alternative in the next verse:

“Now do you believe in rock and roll?
Can music save your mortal soul?”

Rather than having faith in God and his Book of Love, do you believe in the works of men, and their power to save you?

“Oh and while the king was looking down
The jester stole his thorny crown”

The king that wears the thorny crown is, of course, Jesus. Stealing this crown would be the act of someone trying to claim Christ’s authority, or counterfeit it. Therefore, the “Jester” is a type of the antichrist.

“The courtroom was adjourned
No verdict was returned”

What courtroom springs to mind in reference to the King with the thorny crown? The court of Pontius Pilate, where he refused to render a verdict, and adjourned the hearing instead.

There’s more Biblical symbolism in there, too, so I think there a 3rd, more spiritual message that McLean was really trying to convey, especially considering he named the music publishing company that holds the rights to this song “Yahweh Music”.


27 posted on 03/11/2012 1:08:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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So-called progressives will be out of business after the default process. They need the time afforded from government-derived incomes to be political.


28 posted on 03/11/2012 1:21:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Interesting. You can find a similar interpretation here.

There's a lot to be said for the interpretation, but the song wouldn't have caught on if different people couldn't understand it and take it to heart in different ways.

There was a lot of nostalgia and longing in the 1970s. It wasn't necessarily resolvable into a left versus right thing.

If conservatives looked back to John Wayne or Ronald Reagan, you could also find a kind of nostalgia for what liberals thought America had been in Easy Rider or Hunter Thompson's writing.

Don McLean wrote something that a lot of people could hook into in different ways. It was similar with the religious overtones. Nowadays one might take them literally. At the time, a lot of people took them for part of the poetry.

29 posted on 03/11/2012 1:25:53 PM PDT by x
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Placemark for reading. I forgot to ping out a couple of your more recent ones, been too busy to ping. Maybe tomorrow.


35 posted on 03/12/2012 10:05:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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