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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I do not think that these acts done by any president could be looked upon as glorious as we are loosing our freedoms one by one and are mostly just yawning.

Freedom of speech, assembly, religion....life and death are up to bat here. Not a joke. Not paranoia. This is for real. We are facing a communist form of government where the state controls all and our constitution is being shredded and we are letting it happen.

Do you want to live under socialism? I don’t. I hold some politically incorrect (moral) views for which I may have to pay a dear price. Our country is not what it was! Please wake up!


9 posted on 03/18/2012 4:10:16 PM PDT by magdalen
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To: magdalen
"Do you want to live under socialism?"

Do you really think that the US will ever move more left than Western Europe? Technically Western Europe is not socialist because the means of production is mostly privately held.

Do you think that somehow in the US the powers that be are going to try to turn all of the corporations into government agencies? Do you think they even want to?

Socialism is not the real enemy. The real enemy is, and has always been, oligarchy. The good news about the oligarchy here in the US is that it is not completely based on bloodlines: any one of us, theoretically, can become one of the oligarchs. Also, there seems to be more turnover among our oligarchs than in such times/places as Rome, various Holy Roman Empires, various European Kingdoms/Empires, Nazi Germany, Tzarist Russia, Communist Russia, Putin's Russia, Communist China, Cuba, Ho Chi Minh's Vietnam, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Venezuela, etc.

Do you really think that Stalin or Lenin really believed in Communism? Or that Mao did? They were scumbag crony capitalists who were just more brutal in maintaining their monopolies than Government Electric, Government Motors, or Government Sachs.

Certainly the governments of Western Europe, and our own US government, subject our corporations to a myriad of taxes and regulations. Certainly this limits what they can do. But do they respond by ousting the government? No. They just bribe officials to make the taxes and regulations a bit less onerous for them, and a bit more onerous for their competition.

I work for a major corporation which most Americans would consider to be a hotbed of right-wing anti-Socialism. And yet our leaders are proud of their affirmative action programs, their LGBT seal-of-approval, their environmental advocacy, etc.

My company doesn't want the US government to get smaller. They need all those government contracts to survive. They thrilled at the creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security. They love the fact that the US government is going to need all sorts of new technology to keep track of enemies abroad and of our own citizens at home.

Like all good capitalists, they want to privatize the profits and socialize the costs.

Their shareholders agree.

As do their knowing or ideologically brainwashed shills on FR.

21 posted on 03/18/2012 4:37:39 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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