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Yanks drive big vehicles, Swedes costly ones, Fritz prefers VW and MB while Japs drive japs
03/27/2012 | WesternCulture

Posted on 03/26/2012 5:24:06 PM PDT by WesternCulture

The average American car owner might be annoyed with gas prices, but despite his opinions on Obama's handling of the nation, he still can afford to drive around in a gas guzzler.

Unlike rich Norway and Denmark, where car consumption is heavily discouraged, the car producing nation of Sweden (where I live) could only be rivalled by Switzerland.

It shows in Swedish stats on car sales.

The average Swede could afford a car the average citizen of no other nation could afford.

For 16 consequtive years in a row, the 'close to luxury' Volvo V70 has been the top selling car (of three different generations) in my nation.

Top that! (However; we too buy Korean junk..)

What about Japan and Germany?

Continue reading..

10 Best selling cars in the US 2011:

1. Ford F-series 2. Chevrolet Silverado 3. Toyota Camry 4. Nissan Altima 5. Ford Escape 6. Ford Fusion 7. Honda Accord 8. Toyota Corolla 9. Chevrolet Cruze 10. Dodge Ram

Best selling cars in Sweden February 2012:

1 Volvo V70 2 VW Passat 3 Volvo V60 4 VW Golf 5 Volvo V50 6 Kia Cee’d 7 Ford Focus 8 Renault Megane 9 Volvo XC60 10 BMW 3-Series

Best selling cars in Japan 2011:

1 Toyota Prius 2 Honda Fit 3 Toyota Vitz 4 Nissan Serena 5 Toyota Corolla 6 Mazda Demio 7 Toyota Ractis 8 Toyota Passo 9 Toyota Voxy 10 Nissan March

Best selling cars in Germany 2011:

1 VW Golf/Plus/Jetta 2 VW Passat 3 VW Polo 4 Mercedes C-Klasse 5 Opel Astra 6 Mercedes A-Klasse 7 Ford Focus 8 Opel Corsa 9 Mercedes E-Klasse 10 VW Touran


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: automotive; cars; carsales; consumption

1 posted on 03/26/2012 5:24:18 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Has anyone else noticed that when a family or a geek family is portrayed in the movies they generally are driving a Volvo station wagon? Yet according to this Volvo is not a big seller in the USA.


2 posted on 03/26/2012 5:32:57 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Grammar & spelling maybe wrong, get over it, the world will not come to an end!)
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To: WesternCulture
Now that the weather got nice and Spring is here, I pulled this out of mothballs this weekend. This is my daily driver in nice weather. This is a gas guzzler. Not that garbage listed above.

I bet a dollar anyone driving a Volvo would not like to be rear ended by that. LOL.

3 posted on 03/26/2012 5:35:16 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: WesternCulture

Hmmm, interesting. I have a friend in Sweden, IIRC, he told me his mom likes to drive a Benz and his father, a Volvo. There are actually American car enthusiasts in Sweden as well. They seem to enjoy a quite high standard of living in Sweden, IIRC, over the years, they have realized that they have become too socialist although they still have some weird laws an high taxes. I Google Earthed a house in Sweden, I did see a central A/C unit, come to think if it, if I didn’t know it was Sweden I would have thought it was in West Virgina.


4 posted on 03/26/2012 5:35:26 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
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To: WesternCulture
Hmm. I see a pattern. In the car producing countries, they purchase mainly locally produced cars. Maybe it's because things produced locally as large as a car are probably less expensive since they aren't shipped from somewhere else?

The German and Japanese car producers are adapting to that fact by building local plant in the USA, which will begin to alter that dynamic.

How do I get to be paid for doing such important “research”?

5 posted on 03/26/2012 5:37:41 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Nowhere Man

My wife’s old 95 Buick Roadmaster gets 26 MPG on the Highway, about the same as todays 6 cylinder Buick’s, and they call it a gas guzzler. It has 172,000 miles on it, and it runs like a top.. My car is a 2005 Toyota Camry that gets 32 on the highway and 26 around home.

Not all Americans have gas guzzlers and some keep them because they cannot afford anything new. That’s me. I bought the Camry second hand 5 years ago.


6 posted on 03/26/2012 5:39:58 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: WesternCulture

Volvo doesn’t make the top ten in the U.S. and yet we buy more Volvos than Sweden.

“Top that!”


7 posted on 03/26/2012 5:42:50 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: WesternCulture

The Swiss drive Škodas, which are less expensive Volkswagens made in the Czech Republic. When I was in Switzerland, my friend there said that the Beemers there are driven by poor Poles who come as seasonal workers to Swiss farms during the harvest season.


8 posted on 03/26/2012 5:44:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: WesternCulture
What I find interesting is so many people find it so easy to use a slur to refer to the Japanese.
The same people would never refer to Italians as D**os or Mexicans as S**cs but feel it is just fine to to refer to Japanese as “Japs”. WWll has been over for over 60 years, I think it is time to start referring to the Japanese with the same respect as we do others.
9 posted on 03/26/2012 5:50:45 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: WesternCulture

Wow! What a surprise! And ya’ know what?! The Pope’s a Catholic, and bears crap in the woods! Can you believe it?!


10 posted on 03/26/2012 5:52:16 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Clark Griswold’s wagon?

:)


11 posted on 03/26/2012 5:52:45 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Nowhere Man

Yes, Sweden of today is pretty rich and we could afford hobbies like restoring old American cars to mint condition.

The major reason behind this is the fact Sweden has had a major rethink and shifted its national policy from a Socialism to Capitalism mindset.

From 1870-1970, Sweden was the most successful country on Earth in terms of annual GDP growth. During 1970-1990 it was the least successful of all industrialized nations.

Today, we could compete with China and India in these domains.

Income taxes are still very high in Sweden and so are the taxes on consumption.

But the good news is that corporate taxes are very low over here. The business life in Sweden indeed looks very healthy.


12 posted on 03/26/2012 5:55:31 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: Tupelo

Everybody in MY outfit called them GOOKS! Te rubber boots we bought downtown to WEAR downtown in the wintertime were called Gook Boots by all of us.

Things have actually become more genteel over the years. The term Jap shouldn’t be any more offensive to someone of Nippon extraction than the term Yank is to an American, as the Brits call us. Oh gee! Maybe “Brit” is offensive to the British.


13 posted on 03/26/2012 5:57:28 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: WesternCulture

Volvos: They’re Boxy, But Good.


14 posted on 03/26/2012 5:58:11 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Tucker39

“Wow! What a surprise! And ya’ know what?! The Pope’s a Catholic, and bears crap in the woods! Can you believe it?!”

- I’m not the one wasting precious time here.


15 posted on 03/26/2012 5:59:34 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
We tend to have bigger families and need bigger cars. Though you all are starting to reproduce a bit more it seems to me. (interesting how that will change the socialist priorities of many --but that's another thread for another day)

I saw a lot of Audis and Range rovers over there.

16 posted on 03/26/2012 6:00:33 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Born to Conserve

“Volvo doesn’t make the top ten in the U.S. and yet we buy more Volvos than Sweden.

“Top that!””

- Good point!:)


17 posted on 03/26/2012 6:02:40 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
10 Best selling cars in the US 2011:

1. Ford F-series 2. Chevrolet Silverado 3. Toyota Camry 4. Nissan Altima


How are the Ford F-series and Chevy Silverado "cars"?
18 posted on 03/26/2012 6:02:50 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: WesternCulture

The average American car owner might be annoyed with gas prices, but despite his opinions on Obama’s handling of the nation, he still can afford to drive around in a gas guzzler.

Unlike Europeans, we Americans are still breeding and need the space to haul our offspring.


19 posted on 03/26/2012 6:04:00 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“How are the Ford F-series and Chevy Silverado “cars”?”

Definition of “car”:

“A wheeled motor vehicle used for transporting passengers, which also carries its own engine or motor.”


20 posted on 03/26/2012 6:07:22 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
"Unlike rich Norway and Denmark, where car consumption is heavily discouraged,"

American liberals could go serious with an anti car campaign like they did with cigarettes. Of course if it worked the only vehicles on the road would be buses and trucks to deliver our goods and a loaf of bread would be $20.00 because of the tax the trucks would pay to maintain the roads that no one would use anymore.

21 posted on 03/26/2012 6:07:33 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Tupelo
Japs isn't a slur, it is a contraction of the word Japanese. The other two words you point out for Italian(dago) and Mexican(spic) are not contractions but names made up to make fun of the two peoples you mentioned and are considered slurs. Now if you were talking about the words "slant" or "slopehead" as applied to Japs and other oriental races you would have slurs. Japs and nips are merely a shortening of the names Japanese and Niponese, neither are intended, or used as, a slur.

BTW, Canuck is not a slur on the Canadians either.

22 posted on 03/26/2012 6:08:10 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Tupelo
"WWll has been over for over 60 years, I think it is time to start referring to the Japanese with the same respect as we do others. "

Then they are going to have to change the name of these things:


23 posted on 03/26/2012 6:08:29 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: calex59

You failed to say anything bearing substance about the Finns.

Was it a good idea of Stalin to shoot off 75% of his officers before invading them?


24 posted on 03/26/2012 6:12:08 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Japs drive Japs?


25 posted on 03/26/2012 6:13:45 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Technically they have a box.... But no ‘truck’ IMO should be called a ‘truck’ and be equipped with the luxuries they are. Kinda defeats the purpose.

That would be fine if they still made fleet vehicles that WERE actual working trucks. But they don’t. Compare a 79 F350 to a 2013 ‘fleet’ F350. Yes, It’s a FANTASTIC vehicle.

Do you want to pay $40,000 + dollars to haul dirt? Firewood? Cow poop?

That leather interior stinks up fast.

Just IMO of course, FWIW.


26 posted on 03/26/2012 6:14:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Okay, you’re in possession of a wider range of knowlegde of these subjects than I am.

All I know is this:

www.engrish.com


27 posted on 03/26/2012 6:20:50 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: Lazlo in PA

America would do good in restoring the legendary manufacture of Oldsmobile.

But unfortunately, that probably won’t happen.

Greetings to all true car lovers from Gothenburg, Sweden, home of Volvo and (close to) one million people who take pride in cars we drive!.


28 posted on 03/26/2012 6:31:01 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

I fail to see what the Finns have to do with whether or not Japs is a slur. If you want my opinion on the war then the Finns kicked butt on the Russians, even though the Russians finally beat them in the end they had a he** of a time doing it.


29 posted on 03/26/2012 6:40:26 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Tupelo
I think it is time to start referring to the Japanese with the same respect as we do others.

Sure, if they got over their xenophobia enough to buy some US products.

No more racist society exists on Earth than Japan.

30 posted on 03/26/2012 6:45:02 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: calex59

Jap is a slur, believe me. I live in Hawaii, my wife is local Japanese, her dad got a purple heart from his time freezing in the Italian Alps during WWII (he always said: “you can’t trust the Italians!”). If you use the word Jap here in Hawaii, I guarantee you Japanese people will take offense at it.


31 posted on 03/26/2012 6:57:45 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: WesternCulture

Right out of college my car was a used Volvo 740.

The used car salesman almost gave it to me dirt cheap as I was still starting life out of university. Then I was out looking for an apartment and I got one immediately. I eventually left that apt bldg and I asked the manager why he gave me the place.

She told me I drove a Volvo. It showed a certain ‘responsible’ trait for a young dude. The only thing I hate is was it came with a tape track and not a CD player so whenever I went on dates, the girls felt pity on me.

But I took care of that “pity” by using the backseat (wink)


32 posted on 03/26/2012 6:59:00 PM PDT by max americana
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To: WesternCulture

>>The major reason behind this is the fact Sweden has had a major rethink and shifted its national policy from a Socialism to Capitalism mindset.

I remember reading an article about Sweden in National Geographic some time ago. I’m thinking ~15+ years, as it has probably been that long since I dropped my subscription due to their obnoxious knee-jerk Leftism on many things.

There was a comment from a Swede in that article that I always remembered. Paraphrasing, it went something like “We are better off than you are. While we may be more socialist than you, we have figured out we were going down that wrong road and have turned back, while you are still going.”

I hope we turn around soon.


33 posted on 03/26/2012 7:12:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: jobim
Too bad they take offense, just shows how much they hate to be reminded that they started WWII and that they deserved every frickin' Atom bomb we dropped on them. And the USA was only a part of the people the JAPS screwed over between about 1937 and 1945. Talk to the Chinese, they don't call them japs, they call them the Evil Dwarfs and the older ones still have bad memories.They thought the Japs were so bad that Mao Tse Tung looked like a good deal to them. .

Add all that to the fact they never, never apologized to us or any other country for the atrocities they committed during the war. Jap is not a slur, maybe in the minds of the Japanese in Hawaii because it reminds them of their evil past, but it is not a slur. It is a contraction of the full name.

34 posted on 03/26/2012 7:49:36 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

If you say so.
I will tell that to my Japanese friends. I am sure they will agree.


35 posted on 03/26/2012 8:22:18 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: calex59

Whoa there, Archie! I threw in that little fact about my father-in-law, whose parents were born in Japan, receiving the purple hear in WWII. The Japanese in Hawaii aren’t “reminded of their evil past” by the atom bomb, any more than American-born Germans would feel responsible for Hitler. Are you nuts or something?


36 posted on 03/26/2012 10:17:44 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: WesternCulture

not a big shocker: carsmade in Sweden cost less IN Sweden than outside — import taxes etc. And Volve gets tax breaks in comparison. Ditto (only more so) for Japanese cars in Japan and German cars in Germany


37 posted on 03/27/2012 6:52:47 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Tucker39

bears do what in the woods? No way :-) Jogi went to the loo!


38 posted on 03/27/2012 6:55:42 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: WesternCulture

well, it would be like saying Mustalainen


39 posted on 03/27/2012 7:11:08 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: calex59

the Finns were lucky — they were fighting the Soviet conscription machine


40 posted on 03/27/2012 7:15:22 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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“the Finns were lucky — they were fighting the Soviet conscription machine”

- Good point, it probably all comes down to plain luck.

I could easily consent to that description, provided we also could agree Finland were “lucky” having

- a potent western neighbor on their side supplying them with all of the first class goods needed to resist the invading forces of Stalin

- an insane leader of the enemy who decided to eliminate 75% of his officers before attacking Finland, a nation widely known for its ability of successfully participating in every kind of warfare as well as its fierce, bitter hatred of everything Russian

Russia ought to be awarded some kind of Nobel Prize for surviving the largest amount of incompetent leaders of all nations there has ever been.


41 posted on 03/27/2012 5:10:17 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
I did not say it "all comes down to plain luck" -- you did.

I point out the fact that Finland was under Russian rule in the 1800s and there was not a peep. Finland was under Swedish rule before that and the Karelian Finns have been under Russian rule for centuries.

The Tsarist troops were better prepared for a Finnish war than the Soviet conscripts for the simple reason that the Soviet commandants, political commissars were not army men, did not plan their strategy beyond using men as cannon fodder and did not have a proper supply chain set up.

Russia deserves a Nobel Prize (though that is devalued ever since Obama won) yes, for having centuries of misery -- ever since the Mongol invasion

42 posted on 03/28/2012 12:15:43 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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potent western neighbor on their side supplying them with all of the first class goods needed to resist the invading forces of Stalin

you mean Nazi Germany? Well, the Finns had no choice in that. It was a choice between the lesser of two evils. -- they could not rely on neutral, small Sweden to defend it.

The Swedes had been comprehensively defeated by the Russians in the Finnish war of 1808.

the Swedish leader Cronstedt retreated and the Russians took over most of Finland with no resistance.

By the Treaty of Fredrikshamn, this was finalized and Finland became part of the Tsardom

Sweden was ill-prepared to fight in WWII --> it had hardly a handful of Stridsvagn tanks, about 15-20 in 1937.

During the winter war, 8000 Swedes fought on the side of the Finns (after all they had ruled the finns for 600 years)

43 posted on 03/29/2012 2:13:05 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: WesternCulture
Just another one of WesternCulture's 'America Sucks! Europe is Better!' threads. Thread #14.
44 posted on 09/11/2014 10:06:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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