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If Obama is reelected, elected Republicans will no longer be able to avoid the fight they've been twisting themselves into pretzels in order to avoid... because there's an election.
1 posted on 03/30/2012 2:25:25 PM PDT by Ben Barrack
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I can’t concieve of any reality in which the re-election of Obama is any good for ANYONE.


47 posted on 03/30/2012 5:33:47 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Ben Barrack; cripplecreek; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; LS; BillyBoy; ...

Well you know there are distinct advantages to losing despite the obvious extreme drawbacks. The Supreme Court is by far the biggest drawback. The midterm election is the biggest plus. Obama wiped out Bush fatigue and 2 elections of solid rat gain in 2 short years.

If McCain had won we’d have a moderate RINO President worse than Bush and a heavilly democrat Congress (and 2010 would have been a loss of more seats or at least no gain). McCain would probably be badly trailing Hillary Clinton right now. That doesn’t sound good. The liberal Justices may or may not have retired but could we get someone good through a 60 seat rat Senate?

If Kerry had won he’d have been a one termer and the rats never would have taken back Congress. But he would have appointed at least one Justice to replace the Conservative Renquist who died, unless he would have had the forsight to resign before Kerry took office.

If Obama wins it would be really great for the 2014 midterms and they’d be hard pressed to win again in 2016 (and with who? Hillary looks creepier everyday and Biden is a court jester). If the court overturns Obamacare that would take a lot of the sting out of it. But if they court upholds it and Obama wins then socialist medicine is here to stay forever and ever. In addition Gingsberg would retire and we would lose a chance to pick up a seat. And if one of our Conservative Justices dies or gets really sick then we are screwed. Even if a Republican Senate can stop an extreme liberal from getting on we’d get a moderate at best.

So I don’t think it’s worth the risk, God help me I’d take a flyer on a RINO and hope they aren’t as big a disaster as the last RINO. If Romney wins as is as big a RINO as most of us think then we can’t win either way.

On a personal level I just hate Baraq and want to see him forever tarnished by defeat. I don’t know if I can take 4 more years of seeing him on tv.


52 posted on 03/30/2012 10:23:03 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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It would be about the same as Jimmy Carter winning a second term.

Our great-great-grandchildren would still be paying for his screwups.


56 posted on 03/30/2012 11:00:08 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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It seems every election season this argument comes up. But bottom line is this “If Conservatives are not pissed off by now it is hopeless.” I mean how much more Outrage from BO and his totalitarian/socialist cronies is Needed to get Conservatives really Pissed Off!
57 posted on 03/30/2012 11:13:10 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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The writer has asked the single question, even more stupid than RINO’s.

It is utterly mindless, to even contemplate re-electing Obama.


64 posted on 03/31/2012 9:52:57 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (There is nothing "public" about government union-controlled schools)
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Congressional Republicans only act like Republicans when there is a Democrat in the WH. When there is a Repub in the WH then it is Demo-lite.


66 posted on 03/31/2012 9:55:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Can Obama's Relection be a Good Thing for Conservatives?

It depends on what you mean by "a good thing", and THAT depends on what you think Obama is really all about.

Since I don't think my friends with AR-15s are a match for real soldiers, and since I think if Obama is re-elected that it will be the last election for quite a while, then, no, I don't think it will be a good thing at all.

67 posted on 03/31/2012 9:55:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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Hmmm ... didn't Obama say, "If I had a son, his Biblical name would be Something Something 'ben Barack."

If four years of Jimmy Carter so awakened Republican voters that they nominated Ronald Reagan, why has nearly four years of Jimmy Carter on steroids so sedated Republican voters that they've decided to nominate the equivalent of Gerald Ford as the best option for defeating him?

You fight an election with the candidates you have. You don't get to wait until you have good ones. And you can't run imaginary or non-existent or dead candidates.

Romney's name will be added to the long list of liberal Republicans who couldn't seal the deal. Any attempt by establishment elitists to point to Goldwater as evidence that conservatism can't win will be met with sardonic laughter that hopefully drives a stake through the heart of the argument.

Or just added to the list of candidates who couldn't seal the deal. The idea that there was some marvelous conservative out there who could have done won when Dole or McCain didn't just doesn't hold water. We got those nominees because there was no such candidate in existence. We should nominate Gingrich or Santorum and watch him lose to finally drive a stake through that argument, though if we did, the inevitable rejoinder would be that Gingrich or Santorum wasn't a real conservative.

If you thought the Birthers were loud before, just wait and see what happens if Obama is reelected.

Because there's a better chance of overturning two elections than one? Look at what happened with Clinton. These things build up and build up and suddenly they're history and nobody talks about them anymore.

In Clinton's case they built up to impeachment before the bubble burst, but that won't happen with birtherism. If Obama's reelected, people are gradually going to come to think of him and his eligibility as part of the past.

Obama's reelection would mean more Democrats on the Supreme Court. For that reason it's to be deplored and if possible, prevented. Not sure about the rest of your argument, though. Every president runs out of steam in his second term.

If Obama's reelected, that will happen to him. He'll worry about his "legacy" as Clinton did, but it will be more a matter of picking something doable or already done, rather than starting some massive new project.

All this assumes that Republican retain control of at least one House of Congress. If the Democrats hold the Senate and retake the House, Obama may have a second wind.

75 posted on 03/31/2012 10:18:18 AM PDT by x
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Conservatives don’t want “what is good for conservatives.”
We want what is good for the country. Four more years of Obama could be downright catastrophic for the country, no matter how “good” it might be for conservatives.


81 posted on 03/31/2012 2:22:19 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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There is no, none, nada, zilch good that can come from this lamebrain remaining POTUS. Any Republican will do less damage to the nation. Hell, Dennis Kucinich would do less damage to the nation.


84 posted on 03/31/2012 2:28:54 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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The real question is: Would Obama’s re-election be good for the country?

The answer: No.


110 posted on 04/01/2012 7:05:51 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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Can Obama's Relection be a Good Thing for Conservatives?

That's possible ONLY if the conservative justices on the Supreme Court survive four more years. In fact, I hope they're immortal, especially if Massachusetts Mittens somehow gets elected, because Mittens is the next David Souter appointment waiting to happen.

117 posted on 04/01/2012 8:35:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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If obama is elected conservatives will be the equivalent of Jews under Hitler!
118 posted on 04/01/2012 8:42:36 PM PDT by dalereed
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NO. NO. NO! The very thought is absurd!

Even given huge Republican majorities in congress, Obama would still be able to block any meaningful tax and budgetary reforms. All done while his adoring press cheerleads for him.

Political matters are cyclical, so it’s wholely plausible that the R’s may have misused the current situation and will be back on the defensive by the 14 and/or 16 elections.

Who dreams up this stuff? Worse yet, who posts it?

.....Looking now at the posters screen name, I see that this post may be a spoof but I have no interest in looking at it further.


154 posted on 04/02/2012 7:27:47 PM PDT by citizen (Santorum: Man up, stop being selfish and get the hell out. Dragging this thing out only helps Obama.)
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Romney sucks. I didn't vote for him in the primary. I voted for Santorum solely to defeat Romney. However, here's the problem with an Obama re-election.
1. Eric Holder
2. Kathleen Sebelius
3. Cass Sunstein
4. Czars
5. EPA
6. Anthony Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia are all in their mid 70's or older.
170 posted on 04/03/2012 11:21:56 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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How could re-election of this maniac, in any form or fashion could be good for anyone? He is a muslim, acting through selfish socialism pandering to this country’s low lifes to keep his rule 4 more years to complete its destruction.

There is no second chance in this. We either defeat him here and now or our country perishs as we know it. There is not one goddam upside to his being re-elected -—— NONE!...

Get with the progam dreamer. Dreaming that there are future counters to 4 more years of this tyrant killer is infantile.


172 posted on 04/03/2012 12:34:28 PM PDT by Gaffer
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You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can’t be both. Pick one.

I can think of at least one thing that is infinitely worse than the prospect of Obama’s reelection:

The abandonment of all principle by “conservatives.”

We can survive wicked men in office. We’ve done it before...But we can’t survive an electorate that is utterly without principle. Especially that part of the electorate that should be the moral backbone of the body politic.


179 posted on 04/03/2012 2:07:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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