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Would You Go To Prison --- With Your Bishop? (Mrs. Don-o's Challenge on the HHS Mandate and More)
April 2, 2012 | Mrs. Don-o

Posted on 04/03/2012 5:22:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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Well?
1 posted on 04/03/2012 5:22:47 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: NYer; spokeshave; Tax-chick; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; ...

Class, discuss.


2 posted on 04/03/2012 5:25:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Catholic Catechism (2246) advises we are not bound to obey unjust laws.

It does suggest passive resistance.

I am not so inclined, to wait until the last minute, wherein, that is the only option.

Fight NOW, not after it is too late!


3 posted on 04/03/2012 5:34:54 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Four Things
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - March 11, AD 2012 7:22 PM MST

http://barnhardt.biz/

Miss Barnhardt kicks ass in that essay.


4 posted on 04/03/2012 5:35:09 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Whether ‘tis nobler to suffer the prisons and fines or accept the Mark of the Beast, that is the question. ObamaCare may not be the actual Mark but the principle is the same, do we serve God or do we serve Mammon? If any Church is to be true to God, they must have principles and stick to them. Don’t compromise. Don’t pay the fine. Make them shut the doors. There has to be a line. let them cross it.


5 posted on 04/03/2012 5:36:25 AM PDT by BipolarBob (If I had a son who jacked jewelry and dealt drugs, he would've looked like Trayvon.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Brava!!! I could not agree more. The only option is refusal—refusal to comply, refusal to pay the fine.

Our frail humanity may fret about our temporal misfortune. But what the heck country are we leaving to our Catholic kids? One where they lick the boot that presses on their neck?


6 posted on 04/03/2012 5:42:08 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Are you kidding me? Our Bishops - notably their spokesman - advocated for "universal healthcare." We warned them what would happen -- though they are not to be excused for failing see it for their exalted selves. Now that they got it, they start with all the dramatic "martyr" talk.

This is theater, that's all it is. It's the Timothy Dolan show.

7 posted on 04/03/2012 5:49:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wow...

I fancy myself a fine judge of prose, and as I read this I asked myself “Who’s this cardinal with the ponderous stones?” Or perhaps a bishop? Or Ann Barnhardt.

So good it substitutes for coffee, this beautiful morning. Many thanks for posting a splendid product!


8 posted on 04/03/2012 5:58:26 AM PDT by Lady Lucky ( Romney -- the pink slime of presidential politics)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Anoreth; BlackElk

I’m afraid our bishops have read the wrong books and watched the wrong movies. If they had read “Last of the Breed” or seen 189 episodes of “Stargate: SG-1,” they would understand that it’s just more fun to go down fighting, while making slightly rude jokes. You don’t get any good lines if you’re the cringing and compromising character - just contempt from the rest of the cast and the audience.

“Who wants to live forever, anyway?” “Brave up, my brothers - this is a good day to die!” “I am Breitbart!” “Your mother was a gerbil and your father smelt of elderberries!” “Bite me, you (redacted)!”

I already have what most people are freepin terrified of: ten children. (Chorus of omg omg, and the little running-around-in-circles guy.) I’m supposed to be scared of Darth Sebelius and that little homosexual twink who calls himself President? Sorry, not happening.

Do they really think the National Guard - my neighbors - are going to shoot down old people and babies and the youth group, in order to shut down our homeless mission over “free” contraceptives? Zero and his possessed minions probably do, because they’re that nuts, but if our “leaders” - I’ll take the scare quotes off when they demonstrate leadership - also believe it, they’re blithering fools.

(No, I’m not intoxicated at nine in the morning - I just don’t get enough sleep. I’m attempting BlackElk-quality vociferous verbiage, but I just don’t have his gift for alliteration.)


9 posted on 04/03/2012 6:02:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Read "Radical Son" by David Horowitz to understand the Left.)
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To: agere_contra

Ann Barnhardt is brilliant. We have been e-mailing back and forth about this for weeks.


10 posted on 04/03/2012 6:03:52 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: the invisib1e hand
It's time for the USCCB to make a clean break with their past public policy blunders. Of course, it won't be a "clean break," though; it will be a season of tugging and pulling, one man learning and another failing to learn.

You might have noticed, though, that they're unanimous on opposing the HHS Sexual Sabotage mandate. I hope only to sthrengthen their hand on that one, and rouse them to go on in this new, sane direction.

I think some of them are stunned. Good. It's a moment of grace, in its way.

11 posted on 04/03/2012 6:11:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Tax-chick

I love you when yhou’re in this altered mental state :o)


12 posted on 04/03/2012 6:13:26 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

*snicker*


13 posted on 04/03/2012 6:15:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Read "Radical Son" by David Horowitz to understand the Left.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I agree. Too bad that it has taken a crisis to see the Light, but so be it. It is not the first time in history that the church has gotten so taken up by the world and lost its way (almost), but in the past, persecution grew the church, strengthened the flock, and purified the Gospel. Maybe, should the Supremes uphold ObamaCare, we will get an opportunity to live our faith in a meaningful way once again and restore the church’s glory. After all, Revelation does say that the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. It may look like death for a while, but God will preserve her.


14 posted on 04/03/2012 6:26:14 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Inspired, Mrs. Don-o. I woke this morning with thoughts about this Holy Week and how far I am from my Lord.

I live with the fear of loss, fear of pain, fear of rejection, fear of abandonment that removes me from active participation in carrying the Cross to being merely one of the bystanders shedding tears as Christ passes.

Everyone does.

It’s that choice that comes down to the Will, trust and whatever little courage we are granted. I hope I don’t fail.

Our shepherds have been exercising a little courage. We have to pray that they become lions because another Obama term will have America resembling the bifurcated church in China. The PRC have started arresting the Mongolian bishops and priests and the Church there has had to go underground.

The left can move very fast. They have no restraints to bridle them.


15 posted on 04/03/2012 6:27:14 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR
I have scant courage myself, and it drains out of me quick. But...

There's a famous novelette -- "Song of the Scaffold" or something like that? ---- about the Carmelites who were martyred during the French Revolution, focusing on one of them who was really timid, quaking, fainting, not "suited" so to speak for martyrdom. But...

Weak-kneed. Yo. If and when the time comes: honest to God I don't know about myself. Martyrdom? Who am I kidding? A raised voice sends me weeping, nose running, red and bulbous. Heck, a mere cross look and I dissolve like a salted slug.

But...

16 posted on 04/03/2012 6:47:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Somebody Personal Messaged me for permission to reprint this, so I'll write here what I wrote in the PM reply:

As far as I'm concerned, you have a free hand: you can use this in any way that seems most productive to you.

A chunk of it was written by Ann Barnhardt, who gave me permission to adapt into a letter to the bishops, or however I saw fit, and give it more circulation. ("Have at it," was her response.) You might want to run it past her at Ann Barnhardt ann@barnhardt.biz

(Don't worry about this e-mail address: she publicizes it herself at her website.)

Now there's a lady who needs to publish bigtime.

17 posted on 04/03/2012 6:51:37 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Tax-chick
Excellent rant!

Do they really think the National Guard - my neighbors - are going to shoot down old people and babies and the youth group...?

Cogent observation. As goes the Legions, so goes the Republic. Pray that the legions side with their neighbors when the inevitable comes.

18 posted on 04/03/2012 7:22:58 AM PDT by jboot
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Communism requires an answer. The Church has never failed to give it one. In today’s jargon, it goes something like this - “NO SALE”.

Neither in jot nor tiddle is compliance and cooperation with evil an option in Catholic teaching, even with “nuance”.

Let our yes be “yes”, and our no be “no”.


19 posted on 04/03/2012 7:26:56 AM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Communism requires an answer. The Church has never failed to give it one. In today’s jargon, it goes something like this - “NO SALE”.

Neither in jot nor tiddle is compliance and cooperation with evil an option in Catholic teaching, even with “nuance”.

Let our yes be “yes”, and our no be “no”.


20 posted on 04/03/2012 7:27:05 AM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT.)
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