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1 posted on 04/03/2012 10:36:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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There is no evidence that I am aware of that Martin was carrying skittles...just a comment from the family lawyer.

IIRC, Zimmerman was in fact arrested, just not charged.


2 posted on 04/03/2012 10:43:10 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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A “box” of skittles?

Sorry.
Susan Estrogen is still out to lunch.

At least she didn’t say “box of skillets”


3 posted on 04/03/2012 10:44:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Estrich guested on Hannity's show several days ago. As they discussed the case, she began with the standard liberal take on events. Hannity and a second guest thoroughly dismantled her arguments.

And she evidently changed her mind. Which, for most liberals, is an impossible accomplishment.

Estrich is annoying. But she is one of those rare honest liberals.

4 posted on 04/03/2012 10:45:39 PM PDT by okie01
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We are a nation of laws, not men and women.

Ah! there's the rub.

We are now a nation of the laws of Hussein Obama and Eric Holder.
6 posted on 04/03/2012 10:51:04 PM PDT by 867V309
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When someone is on top of you and bashing your head into
the concrete you are:

1. Facing death or serious bodily injury.
2. Unable to retreat unless you can throw of your attacker.

What does Florida's “Stand Your Ground“ law have to do in a situation where your attacker is on top of you breaking your
head open on the concrete under you?

If the accounts of George Zimmerman and the eyewitness
are correct this is a case of self defense and nothing
more, nothing less.

George Zimmerman had a constitutional right to defend himself no matter what state he was in and Florida's “Stand Your Ground“ law has nothing to do with it. And that is the rule of law.

This is turning out to be another case of lying media FAIL
just as it was with the Duke lacrosse team case.

Time will tell.

9 posted on 04/03/2012 10:55:48 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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Police and prosecutors have been reluctant to arrest African-American men for killing white men? I was not aware of this.


12 posted on 04/03/2012 10:58:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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Good for Susan. She was very good during the Duke lacrosse case, as well.


14 posted on 04/03/2012 11:05:47 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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I’m confused. Where is it that Zimmerman is shown to disobey the dispatcher’s statement about following the perp, saying “we don’t need you to do that.” In the transcript, Zimmerman says “OK.”

Anyone know where that is resolved?


17 posted on 04/03/2012 11:12:55 PM PDT by anton
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Estrich is a liberal, but more the old-fashioned Democrat kind of liberal as opposed to the race-baiting looney communist scum that currently runs the Democrat party. From seeing her guest appearances on TV many times over the years, her comments here do not surprise me.


19 posted on 04/03/2012 11:17:56 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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“I understand the president’s identification with Trayvon Martin. I understand his concerns that deaths such as this have, historically, been too easily ignored on racial grounds.”

She is naive or lying. Zero’s comments have nothing to do with “identification” and everything to do with pumping up the black vote before the election.

This is the tried and true tactic of the left to enhance black voter turnout. It happens every election. Remember the ads blaming George Bush for dragging that black kid behind the car on a rope?


20 posted on 04/03/2012 11:24:56 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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>> Comments?

With her every written word, Susan’s raspy, wheezing voice resonates at a deafening level tweaking the tinnitus I try to ignore.

Yeah, she can be sane at times.


21 posted on 04/03/2012 11:27:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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But if there is credible and substantiated evidence that Zimmerman reasonably believed he was facing death or serious bodily injury at the time he shot, then the police and prosecutors would be violating their ethical duties and the rule of law in arresting him to respond to a political crisis.

I understand the president’s identification with Trayvon Martin. I understand his concerns that deaths such as this have, historically, been too easily ignored on racial grounds. But it is essential that our leaders have the courage to say that, ultimately, the issue here should not be race. The issue is the rule of law, applied without regard to race.

So in other words, Hillary will be running as a centrist.

25 posted on 04/03/2012 11:52:31 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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I do not support “Stand Your Ground“ laws because they allow lives to be taken in self-defense where it is not in fact a necessity.

I don't believe that is true. SYG law is not relevant to this case though IMO.

The law does not require that the individual who resorts to deadly force be right.

No, Susan, I am certain that that is not the case. One is still required to believe, by the 'reasonable man' standard, that one's life or another person's life is in imminent danger. As a Constitutional scholar you should know better than to characterize a law without knowing it.

28 posted on 04/04/2012 1:02:51 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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What happened to Gloria?
Did she fall down and bump her head?


32 posted on 04/04/2012 1:18:19 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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Re: Skittles

Is there actual documentation that Martin made any kind of purchase at a store before he was shot?


33 posted on 04/04/2012 2:24:45 AM PDT by zeestephen
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Are there two Susan Estriches?

I can't recall a single instance where, in a discussion of a crime, she did not take the most extreme liberal and PC view possible.

Not once

Until tonight.

Maybe it's just too dark at 3:00 am to see pigs flying, but I am looking out the window anyway.

Ca alors!

37 posted on 04/04/2012 3:04:07 AM PDT by Publius6961 (ItÂ’s easy to make phony promises you canÂ’t keep. - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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One of the more reasonable opinions I’ve read/heard regarding this matter.


45 posted on 04/04/2012 3:48:25 AM PDT by alnick
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New info about Zimmerman/

http://dailycaller.com/


48 posted on 04/04/2012 4:00:52 AM PDT by Atlantan
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“The most notorious example of this, obviously, was the Duke lacrosse team case, where the prosecutor moved too fast, where his motives were political, where a thorough investigation would have spared not only the young men involved but also, ironically, the young woman, whose reputation was also ruined in the process.”

The young woman whose reputation was also ruined?

Is Susan stupid or what?

The whole thing started because Crystal was a shakedown artist that tried to extort more money out of those stupid boys. She’s now in jail for murdering her last boyfriend.

A little bit about Crystal’s ‘reputation’.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Mangum


50 posted on 04/04/2012 4:26:37 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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