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Wesley J. Smith: ‘Futile care’ duty to die may be coming to a hospital near you
The Daily Caller ^ | 5/11/12 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 05/13/2012 2:31:30 PM PDT by wagglebee

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Think of Futile Care Theory as ad hoc health care rationing. Once Obamacare is up and running, centralized boards will create cost-benefit bureaucratic boards that could systemize Futile Care Theory into mandatory refusals or outright health care rationing based on patients’ quality of life.

And it is pure evil.

1 posted on 05/13/2012 2:31:44 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 05/13/2012 2:32:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 05/13/2012 2:33:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 05/13/2012 2:35:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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When your money runs out you are a dead duck.

Be sure to check out the death panels in Obamacare.


5 posted on 05/13/2012 2:41:30 PM PDT by Venturer
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Now, the real reason Sarah Palin was mocked for predicting “Death Panels”. No panel will be necessary.
6 posted on 05/13/2012 2:45:56 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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BUMP


7 posted on 05/13/2012 2:47:36 PM PDT by kitkat (Obama, ROPE and CHAINS.)
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BUMP


8 posted on 05/13/2012 2:47:45 PM PDT by kitkat (Obama, ROPE and CHAINS.)
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Duty to Die is evil, yes


9 posted on 05/13/2012 3:00:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Socialists/Totalitarians are all about plunder and death. It’s how they roll...over all of us, especially the weak, old, infirm, disabled, etc., etc.

DEPOPULATE socialists from the body politic. Amazingly “we the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union...” can still VOTE THEM OUT.

This thinker had them figured out over 160 years ago...

“Above all, if you wish to be strong, begin by rooting out every particle of socialism that may have crept into your legislation. This will be no light task.” - Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

Here is some proof of some of the damage they have done...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

C’mon November!


10 posted on 05/13/2012 3:12:30 PM PDT by PGalt
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11 posted on 05/13/2012 3:18:23 PM PDT by narses
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If anyone is thinking of putting their aged parents in a nursing home these days, don’t do it. If you want them healthy, keep them home with you.


12 posted on 05/13/2012 3:18:29 PM PDT by blueplum
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“Once Obamacare is up and running, centralized boards will create cost-benefit bureaucratic boards....”

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Did anyone notice that none of the congresscritters who passed this evil bill will be subjected to Bambicare?

That, by itself, should outrage the American voter.


13 posted on 05/13/2012 4:01:32 PM PDT by 353FMG
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The Democrats are PRO DEATH OF INNOCENTS REGARDLESS OF AGE, beginning with conception. They are PRO LIFE for MURDERS. Come to think of it, taking an innocent life is MURDER and all involved, including those politicians etc who aid and abet these deaths should ALL BE TRIED, for yup, MURDER. NAZIs were eventually brought to trial, I hope these people are eventually brought to trial and justice.


14 posted on 05/13/2012 5:05:02 PM PDT by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. We need a solvent)
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My orthopeodic surgeon informed my that there is a clause in Obamacare that prohibits surgery (we were discussing knees) if the patient’s BMI (body mass index) is too high. IOW if the patient is too fat. This is part of the fine print that NOBODY in Congress read.


15 posted on 05/13/2012 5:33:14 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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These “Doctors” better realize that sooner or later they`ll kill off the wrong person, someone with a family member who`ll return the favor.


16 posted on 05/13/2012 5:51:29 PM PDT by nomad
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Here is something I wrote a while back:

I've posted this many times before but what if somebody is denied healthcare under Bammycare? People naturally have spouses, children, siblings, friends, parents, grandparents, etc. depending on the age of the one denied. I would hate to be a member of a death panel making such a decision to deny. I'd stay out of dark allies, look under my car before starting it, keep my eyes out for shadows, and jump at every noise I hear at night. Is that noise I hear at 2:30 AM the neighbor's cat or is it Grandpa Jones' grandson, which I denied care to his granddad, with a posse of his friends armed with baseball bats and a shotgun? How about blocking the road in front of me, an old lady in a 1967 Caddy. Did she break down or is she the wife of the man who I denied a hip replacement to, waiting for me where as I step out of my car to help, the last thing I hear is a .45 going off just before St. Peter appears. It's 10 PM, my kid is late in coming home and the phone rings. How about this, what if I denied care to a Tony Soprano?

I know under the insurance companies, there are cases of denial but in a lot of cases, you can get the doctor and hospital to get them to reverse their decision or just go ahead and let the family pay for it and/or go on a charity case. Not so with the government, if you are denied, there is very little redress at all. Ayn Rand put in in a long monologue where it boils down to this, "the more laws you create, the more criminals you make" and when you eliminate the process and route where one can make a challenge to make things right legally, that leaves only one other way, revenge and/or at least forced coercion via illegal means. This is a pandora's box to be sure, people will do anything for their loved ones and for survival.

I remember Quark's quote from DS9 (Star Trek) about us humans, "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."

I don't feel comfortable in visioning this scenario, but if we keep going on the present track, it will happen.

17 posted on 05/13/2012 5:56:43 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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Read what I wrote below.


18 posted on 05/13/2012 5:58:15 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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If that BMI deal is true, there will be a lot of Baraqqi supporters shut out of getting ops.


19 posted on 05/13/2012 6:03:01 PM PDT by nascarnation
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“Ethics is also a common term to refer to or define e.g. code of conduct, honourable behaviours, virtues, just actions”

So called Medical Ethicists have deemed it acceptable to consider killing a new born baby an abortion and Bioethicists think Futile Care doctrine is acceptable. These clowns need to review the definition of ethics. This reeks of another policy from Ezekiel Emanuel.

20 posted on 05/13/2012 7:40:24 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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