Thanks, Grasshopper.
Posted on 05/22/2012 11:32:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
You can’t be declared innocent before trial, you ARE INNOCENT before trial. The burden of proof is on the prosecution. Trials are UNFAIR to the STATE.
Crier asks. “All you’ve got to do is pull that gun and say, ‘hey, I’m walking away from this.’ Show’s over.”
Apparently Crier doesn’t know that in most states if you flash a gun you’ve just bought yourself a heap of legal woes.
Catherine, how long has it been since you practiced? Think about what you just said.
In most states, if you draw your weapon on someone without sufficient cause, it's called brandishing and is a misdemeanor.
The question I still have is who initiated contact. That will determine his guilt or innocence, although I don't see a 2nd degree murder case at all. Manslaughter or acquittal.
Zimmerman’s alive, and you’re an idiot.
Is this the same Catherine Crier from CNN? That would explain her stupidity.
Not fair.
Are we living in so much terror that a resident of a distinct community, and member of Neighborhood Watch to boot, cannot walk up to someone to offer help and dissuade suspicious activity? Seriously?
Being armed means avoiding confrontations lest situations escalate, yes; at the same time being disarmed ALSO means avoiding confrontations lest situations escalate (and one lack the tools to cope). If it's stupid to enter into an interaction armed, it's stupider to enter into that same interaction unarmed.
The answer does NOT entail hiding in steel boxes waiting for "the authorities" (who are, to the apparent misunderstanding of many, normal humans and not minor deities) to arrive and magically resolve the situation which by then no longer exists. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Z himself observed that "wait for the police" had been tried many times before, leading to continuation of petty crimes because nobody had the guts to walk up to an odd-acting stranger and say "may I help you?"
AHEM...the perp screwed up...when he never listened to his girlfriend ....who had it right at night from 250 miles away..’RUUUUN ‘JUS RUUUUN’
You could say the same about TM. If he had stayed inside and watched the All Star game we would not be commenting about this now. If TM did not get suspended...If Zimmerman had shopped the day before or the day after....You can go on and on about what should have happened.
It was not his girl friend. She is a serial tweeter and only mentions TM was killed once or twice. The parents did not know about her at all. She never called TM’s parents after the shooting.
Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty. He doesn’t have the burden of proving himself innocent.
Thanks, Grasshopper.
The rule is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
The lynchmob mentality of the liberal press and New Black Klan aside. THEY prematurely convicted him of premeditated murder of a peaceful smiling 12-year old school boy on suspension, high on dope, and with a gangbanger wannabe cred.
This forum had/has more than its share of the lynch Zimmerman mob. For some strange reason, lately their fingers have been either broken or out of action. But they are still here.
He got out of his car and approached Martin first.
Has this been proven now?
It’s a fair question:
Are we better taking no risks, and letting our surroundings go to Hell, praying that it won’t be our home that gets invaded next, and only drawing the line at the door?
I’ve been on both sides of this...I’ve watched and called the cops, who invariably arrive after the miscreants have departed.
I’ve also intervened once or twice, when things were clearly getting out of hand.
If your side doesn’t send out patrols now and again, pretty soon the territory surrounding you belongs to those who do. I can’t see how that military truth doesn’t apply to criminal activity, and if the cops aren’t doing the patrolling, then what?
“All you’ve got to do is pull that gun and say, ‘hey, I’m walking away from this.’ Show’s over.”
Ignoring the fact that Crier isn’t licensed to practice law in Florida, I guess she’s never heard of a brandishment charge?
“There is no such thing as “shoot to wound,” except in the minds of the mindless.”
Agreed. But “shoot to kill” is not authorized either. Shoot to Stop is generally what is permitted for self-defense. That can have the effect of death. But death should not be the intended result.
The fact that you are shooting them means that you are willing to take that chance.
Otherwise you should simply surrender and allow your attacker(s) to do whatever he/she/they want to do to you.
If TM was as close to where he was staying as Dee Dee said, why didn’t he just go in?
The witnesses are caving one by one... changing their stories. Too much pressure.
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