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To: P-Marlowe
Do you also condone stoning children who are rebellious? See Deut. 21
46 posted on 06/01/2012 11:43:22 AM PDT by Alistair Stratford IV (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV
Do you also condone stoning children who are rebellious? See Deut. 21

If their rebellion is manifested by being an active member of the occupy movement, then yes I suppose I would.

56 posted on 06/01/2012 7:39:30 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV; P-Marlowe; sickoflibs
Stoning....children who are rebellious is, as you have stated, found in Deut 21

Disciplining our children, and painfully, is still found in the New Testament. Stoning is not. Christians have a NEW Contract (testament) with the Lord, and the OLD is not binding as law.

Hebrews 12:9-11 Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. (ESV)

That aside, this is a first amendment case, and it is a case about equal treatment under the law.

As a first amendment case, it clearly is religious in nature: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the FREE EXERCISE thereof.

Try as you like, the government has involved itself in dictating to a church and imprisoning because of religious teaching, and that being religious teaching that is not so far outside the norm for many sects and divisions of religions of all types.

Next, there is equal treatment under the law.

First, as Marlowe has ably pointed out, it is really curious that the folks, who in the privacy of their own homes punished their children, are not being held accountable by the system. It is a pastor, who in teaching corporal punishment, is teaching it as religion, and is teaching a belief that arguably is not outside the parameters of much past teaching by other religious leaders.

For this "conviction for teaching", the pastor received 2 years in prison for "religious speech".

Just a one year sentence sampling to compare with 2 years for a "religious speech" crime:

LAWRENCEBURG, Tenn. -- A 77-year-old Lawrence County man accused of paying to have his wife killed in 1992 will serve one year in jail after entering a no contest plea in Lawrence County Circuit Court, officials said. Phillip Rigling, 77, 341 Jackson Ave., Lawrenceburg, pleaded no contest to solicitation to commit felony murder and solicitation to commit aggravated robbery, Lawrence County District Attorney General Mike Bottoms said.

Lufkin woman, guilty of negligence in death of 2-year-old Hudson boy, sentenced to year in state jail

NOGALES, Ariz. - A Nogales teenager has been sentenced to one year in prison for the shooting death of a Nogales High School student last July.

A Kirkland woman who formerly owned the Houghton Lakeview Adult Family Home was sentenced to a year in jail Friday for the preventable death of an elderly woman. Patricia Goodwill, 62, pleaded guilty to second-degree criminal mistreatment of 87-year-old Jean Rudolph. Rudolph, who suffered from Alzheimer's Disease and was wheelchair bound, died in 2008 of bronchopneumonia and bone infection caused by untreated ulcers.

U.S. District Judge Andrew S. Hanen sentenced former Cameron County District Attorney investigator Jaime Munivez to 12 months and one day on two charges of extortion.

It's fairly easy, looking at the above, to conclude that the judge had some kind of agenda.

No child was entered into the case either dead or severely injured (if any were entered as evidence at all!)

No parent actually swatting with a spoon was charged. And even if they had, based on the one year sentences above, what should that sentence have been?

59 posted on 06/02/2012 2:28:41 AM PDT by xzins (Vote for Goode Not Evil! (The lesser of 2 evils is still evil!))
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