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GM may suffer future sales backlash from thousands of retirees
Torque News ^ | June 22, 2012 | Frank Sherosky

Posted on 06/22/2012 11:19:34 AM PDT by jazusamo

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1 posted on 06/22/2012 11:19:41 AM PDT by jazusamo
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Tomorrow, we are trading in two elderly (17-year old) Fords for a used Volvo S80.

My son asked why we were not considering all of the Chevies on the lots and I explained that under no circumstances would any "Government Motors" product be considered.

And we were a Chevy family when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s.

2 posted on 06/22/2012 11:24:47 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: jazusamo

As ye sow, so shall ye reap.........................


3 posted on 06/22/2012 11:24:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: jazusamo

First they came for the bondholders, but I wasn’t a bondholder.

Then they came for the taxpayer, but I wasn’t a taxpayer.

Then they came for the young employees, but I wasn’t a young employee.

Then they came for me, and there was nobody around to speak up.

Delicious. About time the pensioners got shafted after shafting everyone else.


4 posted on 06/22/2012 11:25:42 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Redleg Duke

Government Motors are definitely NOT on my shopping list forever....................


5 posted on 06/22/2012 11:27:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: jazusamo

I all but refuse to buy any UAW-built car, including Ford, but GM, post-bailout? I can’t think of any incentive strong enough to buy from GM unless there were no other option.


6 posted on 06/22/2012 11:28:06 AM PDT by pogo101
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As a GM retiree I’m elated that my pension will come from Prudential instead of GM.

Prudential has a MUCH HIGHER credit rating than GM. Plus GM is adding $3.5 billion to the fund as it transitions to Pru.

These retiree associations that bemoan the loss of PBGC coverage apparently have NO IDEA that:

1) the Federal Govt is BROKE
2) the PBGC has a $26 BILLION DEFICIT and getting worse as the Barqaqqi Depressionn grinds on.


7 posted on 06/22/2012 11:32:39 AM PDT by nascarnation
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That all may be true but that 3.5 to 4.5 billion going to Prudential could be coming from taxpayer dollars that bailed GM out, the government hasn’t recovered all the taxpayer money from GM last I heard for the bailout.

As a retiree what do you say about this backlash thing from retirees about not buying GM products, is it a valid point?


8 posted on 06/22/2012 11:40:55 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: nascarnation

Wasn’t this just for the white collared workers, not the UAW line workers that already got a better deal than contract law dictates in the bailout?


9 posted on 06/22/2012 11:52:48 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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They have offended bondholders, retirees, contractors, conservatives and especially Tea Party members, and the families of each of these groups. I sincerely hope that, as the stench spreads and more decent Americans boycott GM forever, this will be enough to kill that corrupt company completely. GM is dead to me, and I’ll rest easier once their withered hand (supported only by big government meddling) is removed from my wallet.


10 posted on 06/22/2012 11:54:01 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: jazusamo

The ethics of the GM bankruptcy is a whole ‘nother story.
All my comments refer to is the situation facing GM salaried retirees.

I don’t understand why a GM salaried retiree would feel they are disadvantaged by the move to Prudential.

Their entire view is predicated in faith on a govt that is broke and a quasi-govt agency with $26 billion shortfall.


11 posted on 06/22/2012 12:16:07 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Rusty0604

Yes this pension transfer from GM to Prudential is only for salaried workers.


12 posted on 06/22/2012 12:17:30 PM PDT by nascarnation
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The federal government IS NOT BROKE. We currently have many times over the value of resources and assets to cover the national debt and even the expected payments on social security, federal retirement, and every other bill for generations. Try this: http://blog.heartland.org/2012/06/ferrara-at-tas-green-welfare-green-taxes-green-poverty/


13 posted on 06/22/2012 12:19:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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I don’t want you to figure my taxes if you think you can spend more than you take in and the US Government is not broke...


14 posted on 06/22/2012 12:34:37 PM PDT by rxtn41
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To: pogo101

Agreed. I will never buy a GM or any other UAW-made car. I don’t see how any taxpayer with half a brain can throw more money at this terrible organization. There are so many other cars out there now. A lot of imports are made in Tennessee and Mississippi by non-union workers.

As an aside, GM flying a gay rainbow flag above one of their Indiana plants yesterday didn’t sit very well with a lot of people I imagine.


15 posted on 06/22/2012 12:40:26 PM PDT by KingOfVagabonds
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To: Red Badger

I’m not a GM retiree, just a retiree ... I wouldn’t go NEAR a GM product. Why should I spend any portion of my FIXED INCOME to help pay for Union benefits. Not me. The Honda Pilot is looking good to me.


16 posted on 06/22/2012 12:49:38 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Anybody but Obama.)
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Hundreds of trillions in assets ON FEDERAL LANDS.

Time to start converting those communally owned assets to cash ~ pay off the debts, pay the bills, eliminate taxes.

17 posted on 06/22/2012 12:51:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

We only buy Hyundai.


18 posted on 06/22/2012 12:52:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jazusamo

I’m a Ford guy. They didn’t take the bailout. I’m still a Ford guy.


19 posted on 06/22/2012 12:55:30 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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I’m a Ford guy. They didn’t take the bailout. I’m still a Ford guy.

I was a lifelong Chrysler guy. They took the bailout. My most recent purchase is a Ford Taurus. I won't go back, ever.

20 posted on 06/22/2012 1:03:43 PM PDT by Marathoner (If the choice was Obama vs. Satan I'd have to flip a coin.)
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