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The South is Right!
Nolan Chart ^ | May 25, 2012 | Mark Voge

Posted on 06/23/2012 7:52:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: jmacusa
Make the freakin’ news and show America the face of the new secessionist.

Fascist.

121 posted on 06/25/2012 4:23:27 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jmacusa
Make the freakin’ news and show America the face of the new secessionist.

Fascist.

122 posted on 06/25/2012 4:23:38 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The South is about American values.

Amen. I'm in Red Hampshire (spit), and the locals always cop an attitude when I make reference about 'returning to America' in a few months...New England and the south/midwest...two COMPLETELY different countries.

123 posted on 06/25/2012 4:28:45 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: jmacusa

The lib dems of today are the same as the scumbag radical republicans of the 1860s - leading this country into the abyss.


124 posted on 06/25/2012 7:42:24 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Dhimmicrats have always been dhimmicrats. Just like the southern fire-eaters that launched us into war in 1860.


125 posted on 06/25/2012 7:48:08 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Ditto

“How many civilians died on Patton’s March through Germany?...The end result is that Sherman ended the war far sooner than it would have otherwise. That saved tens of thousands of lives on both sides.”

Bullshit. They didn’t do anything but plan a genocide.

They were intent on killing everything. At that point, they just wanted to make sure they could take everything and there would be nothing left for the south for decades. They were right, the f*ing fascists. Nice equivocations, though. The fact is, the south weren’t Nazis...they were Americans and that war was driven by greed for power, political agenda and money.... which they got ... to play out their progressive agenda and make the northeast the power center. How’s that working for us, Bud?

Patton? Sherman was no Patton. He was a homicidal maniac...read his letters. He wasn’t a warrior, he was a licensed mass murderer. And his grubby, drunken boss oversaw the demise during and after the war. Nice job there, too.

Yeah, the north won alright. Like a rapist wins when they drag someone much smaller and unarmed into a corner and screw them and beat them and leave them for dead.


126 posted on 06/25/2012 8:02:02 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“the South was right on everything but slavery”

This constant association with the South and slavery pisses me off. The North had slavery, too, and Lincoln did not free the slaves, the 13th Amendment did.


127 posted on 06/25/2012 8:20:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Ditto

“End of discussion. Without slavery, there would have never been a Civil War. “

BS. You don’t know much about history if you think that.


128 posted on 06/25/2012 8:22:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: PzLdr

So, what you are saying is that slavery WAS OK, as long as limited to Southerners who wanted to opt out of the Union.

Can’t have it both ways.


129 posted on 06/25/2012 8:30:55 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Ditto
The same neo-confederate BS that I have grown so tired of hearing here. Lincoln did not vigorously endorse the Corwin Amendment. He only said that he did not care one way or another, but if could have convinced the states that had already declare secession to return to the union, he was not opposed.

The circumstance for his supposed detachment made his declaration of disinterest ridiculous.

The amendment was only proposed to reassure the South that the Federal Government had no intention of abolishing slavery.

And so it was in perfect agreement with Lincoln's pledge. To add apologetic to denial is to poison the one and waste the other. Please explain why a reason someone might support the amendment helps prove that someone didn't.

In fact, there was no possible way the Federal Government could have abolished it before secession. Congress would have never given the necessary 2/3 majority of both houses, and with 15 out of 37 being slave states, there was no chance of gaining the necessary 3/4 of state ratification necessary to ratify such an admendment to the constitution.

All the above is irrelevant to the issue of whether Lincoln supported the language.

Your drivel about Lincoln supporting Corwin is a standard Lost Cause tactic to confuse those who do not know history or are totally ignorant of the constitutional process.

The constitutional process is irrelevant to the issue of whether Lincoln supported the language. You continue to do what you did with arderkrag in #45. Continual insults, derision, and accusations of ignorance are not going to win any arguments worth winning.

Lincoln did not come into office promising to end slavery. His only pledge was to end the expansion of slavery to the territories.

And so his pledge was in perfect agreement with the language of the amendment.

That, and that alone is what the Confederates went to war over.

Read about the Corwin Amendment here.

Yeah, the letter writing campaign in which he told every one pertinent to the amendment process about this amendment he didn't really care about and that he didn't care about it. He was even more weirdly adamant about not really caring about it in his first inaugural, because, you know, the inaugural address of a president in a time of national crisis is the perfect occasion to bring up the matter of an amendment to permanently alter the Constitution and perhaps prevent the ruination of the whole country when one doesn't care about it so much that it becomes necessary to point out how much one doesn't care. It goes further than that; Lincoln actually claimed to not even know the language of the proposal - by the time he gave the speech!.

I think he was lying.

Learn the facts and please stop spreading misinformation.

Your feelings about facts are not, themselves, facts.

130 posted on 06/25/2012 10:06:40 AM PDT by Brass Lamp
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To: central_va

What’s the matter Reb? Don’t you want to be the new Confederate? Think of it. You’ll be at the fore front of a new (old) movement. ‘’The New Confederate States of America’’ and you can be it’s president. Think of the celebrity status that goes with it! You’ll do all the talks shows and stuff. Heck, you might even get on Fox News. The gals go big time for edgy, revolutionary types you know. Who knows, you might finally get yourself a girlfriend.


131 posted on 06/25/2012 12:26:15 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Kind of funny how a conservative state like Virgina was so conservative that they only allowed a kook and a RINO on the primary ballot this year.


132 posted on 06/25/2012 12:46:16 PM PDT by PT57A
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To: PT57A

You want to talk RINOS? My state NJ has a big fat-ass Lou Costello look-a-like RINO by the name of Chris Christie.


133 posted on 06/25/2012 7:38:06 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ditto

Sorry, but the ‘myths’ I have been taught were from letters sent among family who happened to have actually been there at the time.

I think I’ll stick with my ancestors.


134 posted on 06/25/2012 7:40:00 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: jmacusa

LOL! A rino of a RINO.


135 posted on 06/25/2012 7:42:17 PM PDT by PT57A
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To: rockrr

You’ll have to give me a few days to find the book, I’ve been painting and everything is scattered to he** and gone here.

I’d rather have just painted around the furniture, but you know how some people can be...


136 posted on 06/25/2012 7:44:22 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: All

I’ll never understand why all those dirt poor Southern enlisted men who didn’t own slaves fought like hell for the South. And that includes my g-g-grandfather who was wounded twice, went home to heal, then went back and fought some more. He never owned a slave.


137 posted on 06/25/2012 8:23:18 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: CodeToad

I always found it interesting that the slaves weren’t freed until long after the war started. Yet it’s always said slavery is why the war was fought.


138 posted on 06/25/2012 8:43:47 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Shadowstrike
Sorry, but the ‘myths’ I have been taught were from letters sent among family who happened to have actually been there at the time.

That's interesting. Why don't you scan them and post them for us to read?

139 posted on 06/30/2012 6:44:49 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Terry Mross
I always found it interesting that the slaves weren’t freed until long after the war started. Yet it’s always said slavery is why the war was fought.

That's because you are ignorant of history. It can be cured, if you care to study just a little bit.

140 posted on 07/02/2012 12:26:04 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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