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I don't use drugs. I don't like the use of drugs. My nephew [age 26] spent several years in jail for heroin use and died of an over-dose just this February.

Nonetheless, the "War on Drugs" hasn't done a thing to stop the use of them. In fact, as the post points out, the price of drugs is collapsing because the supply is so great.

Can conservatives admit that "The War on Drugs" is, perhaps, a bigger flop than the Democrats' "War on Poverty?"

Or should we continue to "create jobs" by throwing more money at it and feeling really good about how we're helping society?

1 posted on 07/06/2012 4:53:05 PM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: BfloGuy

The only price going up as a result of the War on (Some) Drugs is the cost of lost liberties.


2 posted on 07/06/2012 4:56:44 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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Don’t worry, once they’re legalized and the government attempts to regulate them then the cost will go back up. Do you think that if the government starts dispensing heroin and meth rations that the cartels will all die? There will just be a new ‘war’, a capitalist competition war between the government dispensaries and the cartels. The supply will simply increase more, which is a good thing I guess.


3 posted on 07/06/2012 5:01:56 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: BfloGuy

A little secret for you:
The cartels will always win because they operate globally outside of all laws & we’re trying to fight them from within the confines of a lawful civilization.
Legalizing drugs will not stop the encroachment of their lawlessness into our world. It will only hasten it.


4 posted on 07/06/2012 5:06:12 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: BfloGuy

My niece was hooked in methamphetamine. BAD! After her third trip to the joint, she got serious and has been clean for over 10 years now. I’m happy she’s not dead. I’m not a big fan of “rehab” because I’m convinced it doesn’t work. She made me eat my words. So okay, it worked once.


5 posted on 07/06/2012 5:06:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: BfloGuy

How hard would you work if you knew that success would mean you are out of work?


6 posted on 07/06/2012 5:07:39 PM PDT by kempster
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To: BfloGuy

The other thing to note is that a theocratic police state - Iran - can’t control its drug problem.


8 posted on 07/06/2012 5:10:21 PM PDT by Strategerist
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Most folks beleive keeping drugs illegal doesn’t stop anybody from getting them, but also believe that far more people would use them if legalized.


10 posted on 07/06/2012 5:12:43 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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You are wrong. The war against drugs IS working.

Thanks to that war, heroin and cocaine are not for sale at the local convenience store. Heroin and cocaine are not handed out like Slurpees at Seven-Eleven. Heroin and cocaine are not sold like hot dogs at the corner of most streets. Heroin and cocaine are not passed out by vendors at baseball games. Heroin and cocaine are not served at soccer team parties after the championship game. Heroin and cocaine are not placed on your tray by airline stewards. Heroin and cocaine are not everywhere — thanks to our brave policemen and parents and those non-libertarians who support them.

You are WRONG. End of debate.


13 posted on 07/06/2012 5:20:05 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: BfloGuy

I don’t use drugs either including the liquid type

Trying to talk sense to way too many on this site is frustrating

They learned NOTHING from PROHIBITION


22 posted on 07/06/2012 5:42:48 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: BfloGuy

I believe “The War on Drugs” to be in reality a war on rights, particularly property and legal rights. Just ask yourself how compromised the 4th amendment has become because of it.


24 posted on 07/06/2012 5:47:07 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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We have to have a war on drugs because we can’t just let people do whatever they want because they might do something I don’t like /sarc


35 posted on 07/06/2012 6:41:28 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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The cartels have figured out that they can smuggle drugs by mixing them in with potential voters and watching the Democrats suck them across the border by capillary action.


41 posted on 07/06/2012 7:30:04 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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If there is one number that embodies the seemingly intractable challenge imposed by the illegal drug trade on the relationship between the United States and Mexico, it is $177.26. That is the retail price, according to Drug Enforcement Administration data, of one gram of pure cocaine from your typical local pusher. That is 74 percent cheaper than it was 30 years ago.

I remember it being $30-50 a gram 30 years ago. Is that what Obama paid?

45 posted on 07/06/2012 8:13:06 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: BfloGuy

The price of illegal drugs will go back up once a new large group of addicts are added into the mix.

I know one person who has been kept off drugs because they are illegal....... me. Legalizing drugs would be absolutely idiotic.

A death sentence for trafficking drugs would be a good start if winning the drug war is important enough.


68 posted on 07/07/2012 3:55:13 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: BfloGuy

I don’t like any of our choices when it comes to illegal drugs, particularly when kids are involved.


73 posted on 07/07/2012 6:07:15 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: BfloGuy

Mebbe some bright eyes over at the NYT will be able to someday document the “convenient” loss of Constitutional freedoms in parallel with the expansion of the drug war.

So far Freedom has been the only issue constrained by the so called drug war.


149 posted on 07/25/2012 4:06:19 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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