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Cops Shoot Dog During Foot Chase
reason.com ^ | July 3, 2012 | Ed Krayewski

Posted on 07/07/2012 8:30:16 AM PDT by chrisinoc

Police officers in Lake Charles, Louisiana shot and killed a family dog named Monkey while chasing a suspect, according to an online petition calling for the police department to fully investigate the incident.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: 2012; assholecop; deadleoswalking; dog; donutwatch; lakecharles; louisiana; warondogs
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1 posted on 07/07/2012 8:30:22 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: chrisinoc

General question: Putting aside any problems of necessity here, if the police damage a bystander’s property (let’s say inanimate property for the sake of the question), does the town reimburse the bystander?


2 posted on 07/07/2012 8:40:00 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: chrisinoc; holdonnow

3 posted on 07/07/2012 8:42:59 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: chrisinoc

“So I was running by, saw the dog there, and knew I had to do my duty...”


4 posted on 07/07/2012 8:43:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: chrisinoc
Will somebody please breed a dog with a bullseye target on each side.
5 posted on 07/07/2012 8:44:06 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: chrisinoc
The shooting reportedly occurred when the dog began barking at police who were chasing some suspects.

Be careful going up to the PD to bark at them about this incident. You may just get shot too.

6 posted on 07/07/2012 8:46:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Pearls Before Swine

In many cities, if the police (or other city employee or contractor) damage a bystander’s property the person would have to file a claim with the city. Almost always it is denied, in which the person would have to sue the city for damages or settle out of court.


7 posted on 07/07/2012 8:51:55 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: Navy Patriot
Will somebody please breed a dog with a bullseye target on each side.

The theory being that with a bullseye the cops would never actually hit it?

8 posted on 07/07/2012 8:53:09 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1263 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: chrisinoc

As my kids get older, I will teach them to avoid interaction with police if at all possible. I no longer see them as the famous, altruistic, “thin blue line” that protects me and my family. Sorry.


9 posted on 07/07/2012 8:56:15 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: chrisinoc

Calling for an investigation is worthless. If you want justice, you will have to find another means.


10 posted on 07/07/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by Truth29
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11 posted on 07/07/2012 8:59:12 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ChocChipCookie
As my kids get older, I will teach them to avoid interaction with police if at all possible. I no longer see them as the famous, altruistic, “thin blue line” that protects me and my family. Sorry.

No need to be sorry. You have pegged them (in a reverse fashion) for what they are: thugs with a badge, a gun, and an attitude.

I have had no use for them for years.

12 posted on 07/07/2012 9:01:13 AM PDT by OldPossum ( "it's" is the contraction of either "it is" or "it has"; "its" is the possessive pronoun)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Officer of Peace ridding himself of an “unclean” dog?


13 posted on 07/07/2012 9:02:41 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: chrisinoc
By way of contrast, shoot a police dog, get 11 years...
14 posted on 07/07/2012 9:03:39 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1263 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void
The theory being that with a bullseye the cops would never actually hit it?

Yep.

15 posted on 07/07/2012 9:05:00 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Not sure how that works. But I do know that that is why they eliminated police pursuits in many communities.

The police, hyped up on too many Starsky and Hutch chase scenes, would do whatever it took to catch the fleeing suspect, destroying anything, crashing into any car, putting pedestrian lives at risk just to catch a fleeing suspect. The ends justified the means in police pursuits.

Then the insurance companies got involved and asked why the police think that it is prudent to cause $80,000 in property damage in order to capture someone who just stole $500. After some thought, all the chase nonsense stopped, and Starsky and Hutch was cancelled [except for occasional reruns]. Amen.

16 posted on 07/07/2012 9:07:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: null and void

*nevermind*


17 posted on 07/07/2012 9:09:19 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1263 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: chrisinoc
cops donuts Pictures, Images and Photos

"Give us the donuts and we'll release your dog unharmed...ish..."

18 posted on 07/07/2012 9:09:56 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: chrisinoc; Uncle Chip

Thanks for your perspectives on city liability.

It sure seems to me that part of the cost of policing should be the cleanup of inadvertent economic damages. After all, the cost of policing is presented as straight-up shared protection. If, in the course of protection, the city can trash your property with impunity, something is definitely wrong.

Police departments ought to have a “cleanup” department. Forcing bystanders to sue for any satisfaction is wrong.


19 posted on 07/07/2012 9:16:02 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: chrisinoc

A dog named monkey??


20 posted on 07/07/2012 9:23:25 AM PDT by Copenhagen Smile (Ask me no questions, I"ll tell you no lies)
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To: chrisinoc
Dogs are members of the family.

A majority of people in the world will tell you, "Anyone who comes onto our property and kills a member of my family is my enemy."

Most also understand the inherent deal of this world: "Do unto others as you would have done unto you."

Careful what you start.

When "police business" means going onto someone's property and killing what they believe to be an innocent member of their family for "the greater good", you are doing it wrong.

Karmicly speaking, sometimes a stick is a stick, but usually it's a boomerang.

Put it down before you hurt yourself.

21 posted on 07/07/2012 9:30:06 AM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: chrisinoc
From the article update it is believed that one of the suspects ran into the back yard of 3204 Hodges Street and fled through a gate which led to the front yard. The suspect left the gate open which allowed the family dog the ability to chase after the suspect.

This is why our gates are always padlocked. It's not that much of a bother when you buy a set of padlocks keyed the same and the risk to our pets is reduced.

22 posted on 07/07/2012 9:36:29 AM PDT by LSAggie
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To: GBA

They are definitely going to get bad Karma by shooting the Dogma.


23 posted on 07/07/2012 10:15:40 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1263 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Copenhagen Smile

This German shepherd was named Monkey by his former owners. The rescuer changed his name to Journey and was adopted almost immediately.

http://gsroc.org/available_dogs_detail.asp?ID=2278


24 posted on 07/07/2012 10:24:13 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: ChocChipCookie

“As my kids get older, I will teach them to avoid interaction with police if at all possible. I no longer see them as the famous, altruistic, “thin blue line” that protects me and my family. Sorry.”

Yep.


25 posted on 07/07/2012 10:32:13 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: ChocChipCookie

I agree

And I would show everyone these 2 videos.

http://kingcorey.com/2008/12/dont-talk-to-police-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever/

Legal experts telling you to do the same thing and why.


26 posted on 07/07/2012 10:44:03 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: chrisinoc

I was once in a convenience store during an armed robbery.
The gunman locked the store manager, the cashier and me in a store room.
From the store room phone, we called the cops 6 times before cops arrived to let us out 3 hours later.
Cops are worthless.


27 posted on 07/07/2012 10:47:45 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: Navy Patriot


They're working on it!
28 posted on 07/07/2012 10:54:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Copenhagen Smile; chrisinoc

Who give a f*** what the dogs name was?

Them running through yards playing military, while shooting peoples pets to death is absolute criminal gangland style bull shit.

29 posted on 07/07/2012 11:20:59 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: LSAggie
Or at least put a little spring clip on it. That would have forced the guy to jump the fence. I keep those on the inside of my wooden fence gates. Readily available in the chain/rope area at Home Depot.


30 posted on 07/07/2012 11:25:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ChocChipCookie

I was raised that way, too.

Always viewed them as heroes.
Now...not so much.


31 posted on 07/07/2012 12:07:19 PM PDT by Salamander (I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name.)
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To: chrisinoc

Also at the link:

Recent Puppycide:
Cops Shoot Dog During Foot Chase; Petition Started for “Justice for Monkey”, Ed Krayewski, July 3, 2012
Elgin is the Dog-Shootingest Town in Illinois, J.D. Tuccille, June 27, 2012
Austin Police Revise Policy on Use of Lethal Force on Dogs After April Puppycide Drew National Attention, Ed Krayewski, June 19, 2012
Deputy Shoots a Dog That Is Actually Dangerous: His Own, Scott Shackford, June 8, 2012
Cop Shoots Border Collie Mix He Mistook for Pitbull After Showing Up at Wrong Home, Ed Krayewski, May 30, 2012
Justice for Cisco: A Wrong Door Puppycide in Austin, Lucy Steigerwald, April 17, 2012


32 posted on 07/07/2012 12:09:24 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Snickering Hound

33 posted on 07/07/2012 12:13:03 PM PDT by Salamander (I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
They've perfected it:


34 posted on 07/07/2012 12:16:21 PM PDT by Salamander (I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name.)
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To: dragnet2

That photo makes me physically sick.

I can’t even imagine....


35 posted on 07/07/2012 12:17:38 PM PDT by Salamander (I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name.)
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To: chrisinoc

Just killing the competition. Dogs actually understand the meaning of “to protect and serve”.


36 posted on 07/07/2012 12:28:19 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (Liberals love to do what is "best" for you, even if it kills you.)
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To: chrisinoc

“...police department to fully investigate the incident”

What’s to investigate? They’re punk thugs.


37 posted on 07/07/2012 12:30:26 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: ChocChipCookie

“As my kids get older, I will teach them to avoid interaction with police if at all possible. I no longer see them as the famous, altruistic, “thin blue line” that protects me and my family. Sorry.”

When I was a kid, we were taught cops were our friends. And they were friendly and helpful. Now they’ve been trained “you’re the enemy” and treat you as such.

But this is what life is like in a police state. Land of the free? LOL!


38 posted on 07/07/2012 12:33:01 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Salamander
That photo makes me physically sick.

Yep...

39 posted on 07/07/2012 12:34:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GBA
Karmicly speaking, sometimes a stick is a stick, but usually it's a boomerang.

Put it down before you hurt yourself.

This is a great statement.

40 posted on 07/07/2012 12:36:33 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: FreedomPoster

Those will work!


41 posted on 07/07/2012 1:11:23 PM PDT by LSAggie
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To: ChocChipCookie

“As my kids get older, I will teach them to avoid interaction with police if at all possible. I no longer see them as the famous, altruistic, ‘thin blue line’ that protects me and my family. Sorry.”

Sadly, you are right. With some exceptions, LE departments have for the most part dumbed down their standards and are now largely staffed by thugs. There has been a rash of trigger-happy cops playing Rambo, and most often innocent bystanders or family pets are the victims.


42 posted on 07/07/2012 1:14:20 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Good idea. Thank you!


43 posted on 07/07/2012 9:56:31 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander

Twenty years ago, a cop who shot a housedog would have been laughed off the force (and likely would have trouble finding a job as an officer at any other precinct.

How times have changed....

Muhammed would have approved of Sudden Dog-Jihadi Syndrome.


44 posted on 07/07/2012 9:59:38 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander; ChocChipCookie
I was raised that way, too.

Always viewed them as heroes.
Now...not so much.

Same here. Mom was right back when, but no longer.

45 posted on 07/08/2012 6:39:31 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: chrisinoc

Where is the cops-can-do-no-wrong crowd? 45 posts and not one defending them and saying what heroes they are. And the ones that critize them when they beat some helpless guy to death or shoot someone’s pet dog for no reason are cop haters.


46 posted on 07/08/2012 6:57:21 PM PDT by sport
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47 posted on 07/08/2012 8:37:16 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: chrisinoc

Condolences to the people losing this beautiful dog.

This sounds like a comedy - tragedy - of errors. Circumstances.

The dog escaped her yard because the crook left open her gate. She was (naturally) chasing after him and then the other suspicious people (police) who strangely were running like nuts, also. Not shocking if she *was* really charging them, doing her job. While you’re in pursuit of a crook, you don’t want to be impeded by bared teeth.

I say, don’t be shocked if the dog gets shot.

It’s tragic, but it doesn’t sound like the knee-jerk “jack-booted thugs” comments so glibly thrown around here most of the time. They were in pursuit and didn’t need another threat to impede them concurrently.

I could be wrong, but that’s how I read it now.


48 posted on 07/08/2012 8:46:37 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

post-script:

Blame the scum assailants, not the cops.

Otherwise as asinine as blaming the US government for 9/11, instead of where it really belongs - with Moslem cultures.


49 posted on 07/08/2012 8:49:26 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: chrisinoc

Some day the dog owners will start shooting back.


50 posted on 07/08/2012 9:23:19 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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