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As danamco pointed out, FMD was 55 and not an “ugly old man when SAD arrived in Hawaii” in 1960, according to a mountain of evidence which you have failed to refute in any way.

Hello Sweetness! There you go again, trying to make me angry so you can write to the Mods and the owner of the site and report me for being rude and posting comments on a thread you keep saying belongs to you...which is doesn't, and most of the time when I do post an image of dear old Frank I post a composite in which his age varies from a Youth to someone in their retirement years:

Now, about SAD arriving in Hawaii in 1960, unless you can show us any physical evidence that's where she was, there's still a mountain of doubt about that, but I can wait.

Your attempt to bolster your assertion by cleverly posting pictures of FMD at age 80 is flagrantly dishonest and typical of your behavior on this thread and on all eligibility threads.

Not at all, you see I am not guilty of cleverly posting pictures of FMD at age 80 and the only person I know who based an entire book on identifying FMD on one and ONE ONLY image is your hero, the author Gilbert. His assertion also appears to rest on the identification of a professional model for erotic image magazines - a girl who had a long career of it and wasn't Stanley Ann Dunham, oh and that piece of wood from a floor that been in a shed for 50 years...a floor he identified from photographs that he downloaded from free-vintage-porn.com which website I traced years ago...when the photographs were first shown.

What are you protecting by directing attention away from communist FMD?

Deat Sweetness, nothing has changed, I've been saying that FMD isn't the father of zero for years, and that little teenage girls just out of high school who have never had a boyfriend according to her classmates (you do believe she went to Mercer Island High School, don't you?) don't jump into bed with a black man thirty-seven years older - a chinless, barrel chested creature with a nose like a dumpling, he's not what little girls dream of - in fact, the very idea is enough to make a normal person feel sick.

That's if she was there in Hawaii in 1960 of course, but all we could ever find was Ann S Obama in the directory and the girl identified as Ann at the Nachmanoffs. Billy Ayres was the one who let it slip she was in Chicago when she was only sixteen then and as her Uncle was Deputy Director of the Library of the University of Chicago, which she had been accepted to attend, it's not hard to imagine that's where she was, going to the movies to see Black Orpheus which wasn't released in the US until December, 1959. Her school chums say she and her father had a very confrontational relationship, they fought a lot. So maybe she did what many girls do, she left home and went to live with her Uncle, whose wife was on a committee with the wife of David Axelrod and they all lived in Hyde Park...just around the corner from a lot of VIP's who feature in this sad story...

Is it just your fantasy that Malcolm X MUST be the father and Valerie Sarruf the mother?

No, not really, you keep saying it so if it's anyone's fantasy, it might just be yours? Or your worst nightmare, take your pick, Dear Sweetness. Considering that I have never written anything like that on a thread, it makes me seriously wonder - are you trying to put words into my mouth and for what?

Or are you actually protecting Obama from having his real father discovered? Sometimes I wonder, especially when you post this intentionally misleading nonsense.

Funny thing about that my dear, sweet correspondent, I had exactly the same thoughts about you.

This behavior of yours fits perfectly an insidious form of Obot trolling designed to lead FReepers away from the truth and to encourage them to believe a fundamentally flawed narrative which can only protect Barry.

Please allow me to pay you the same compliment.

“That's if she was there in Hawaii in 1960 of course, but all we could ever find was Ann S Obama in the directory and the girl identified as Ann at the Nachmanoffs.”

More lies, delusions and misdirection.

“Ann S Obama” was a totally plausible version of her name in the Seattle Polk, which corroborates the U of WA transcript and has nothing to do with HI.

The U of HI registrar and U of HI current and contemporaneous records affirm and cross-corroborate that SADO was at U of HI beginning in 1960 and returned to HI in the fall of 1962 (prior to your delusional 1963 date).

The Ann(a) in the Nachmanoff photo was suggested to be a named Japanese student by a fellow student, the Cambodian, IIRC. There is no marriage vital record or any record anywhere of an alternate Ann S. Obama associated in any document or witness account who is not SADO.

The FOIA INS docs confirm and cross-corroborate all of the above EXACTLY in multiple places confirming SADO in HI in 1961 and pregnant, most likely dating to conception in 1960, placing her in HI in 1960.

There is no evidence of any other son of BHO Sr. in HI and no evidence that Roman Obama of Equatorial Guinea was ever in HI as and infant/toddler or in Kenya as a “dark boy”

There is no evidence that David Obama did NOT exist or that Mark's family photos are faked.

There is a lot of evidence that you are delusional or intentionally trying to sucker gullible FReepers into buying a narrative that would subject them to ridicule, where they to embrace it, a narrative that protects Barry by steering FReepers away from investigating where SADO was when she gave birth to the little red-diaper baby.

That is where Barry is most vulnerable and you appear on eligibility threads almost every day protecting him with what appears to be intentionally dishonest misdirection away from the conclusive evidence that SADO is Barry's mom.

Yes, you did affirm to David in a reply comment to him which I posted several times upthread that Barry is the son of Valerie Sarruf by incorporating a quote from his statement affirming same snd posting a picture of Valerie Sarruf in that same comment, so another lie from you.

You have never shown the slightest bit of credible narrative explaining when Mal an Val were together, that she was pregnant at the specific time required, or how they passed their spawn supposedly to Maya Angelou who had a brother in HI.