Quote from Seizethecarp: “One of the most seductive things about that Bomford BC was that the date it was prepared of February 1964, IIRC, fit it being a document requested for the HI divorce court.”
As I have pointed out before you DO NOT have to provide a BC of your children to get a divorce.”
I have done a “Do It Yourself Divorce” in Washington State for my daughter. You get a packet with all the legal documents required along with the “Instructions”. At no time is a copy of your “Marriage License” or “Birth Certificates” asked for. Also my mother divorced my father in 1955 with legal help and I know she didn’t have to present Birth Certificates for her children as she never had any in her possession. In fact when I applied for Social Security I had to order one from my birth state.
The reason a page is missing when someone requests to see a copy of the divorce papers is due to a “CONFIDENTIAL INFO FORM” The clerks are instructed not to put any of that information in a public access file.
Below is the form that is filled out if any of those reasons occur.
Confidential Information Form (INFO)
County: Cause Number:
Court Clerk: This is a Restricted Access Document
Do not file in a public access file.
Divorce/Separation/Invalidity/Nonparental Custody/Paternity/Modifications Sexual Assault Other
Domestic Violence Antiharassment Information Change (Check if you are updating information)
A restraining order or protection order is in effect protecting the petitioner the respondent the children.
The health, safety, or liberty of a party or child would be jeopardized by disclosure of address information because:
The following information about the parties is required in all cases:
(Use the Addendum To Confidential Information Form to list additional parties or children)
Petitioner Information Type or Print Only Respondent Information
Name (Last, First, Middle)
Name (Last, First, Middle)
Race
Sex
Birthdate
Race
Sex Birthdate
Driver’s Lic. or Identicard (# and State)
Driver’s Lic. or Identicard (# and State), (or, if unavailable, residential address)
Mailing Address (P.O. Box/Street, City, State, Zip)
Mailing Address (P.O. Box/Street, City, State, Zip)
Relationship to Child(ren)
Relationship to Child(ren)
The following information is required if there are children involved in the proceeding. (Soc. Sec. No. is not required for petitions in protection order cases (Domestic Violence/Antiharassment/Sexual Assault).)
1) Child’s Name (Last, First, Middle)
Child’s Race/Sex/Birthdate
Child’s Soc. Sec. No. (If required)
Child’s Present Address or Whereabouts
2) Child’s Name (Last, First, Middle)
Child’s Race/Sex/Birthdate
Child’s Soc. Sec. No. (If required)
Child’s Present Address or Whereabouts
List the names and present addresses of the persons with whom the child(ren) lived during the last five years:
List the names and present addresses of any person besides you and the respondent who has physical custody of, or claims rights of custody or visitation with, the child(ren):
Except for petitions in protection order cases (Domestic Violence/Antiharassment/
Sexual Assault), the following information is required:
Petitioner’s Information Respondent’s Information
Soc. Sec. No.: Soc. Sec. No.:
Residential Address (Street, City, State, Zip)
Residential Address (Street, City, State, Zip)
E-mail Address: E-mail Address:
Telephone No.: ( ) Telephone No.: ( )
Employer: Employer:
Empl. Address:
Empl. Address:
Empl. Phone No.: ( ) Empl. Phone No.: ( )
For Nonparental Custody Petitions only, list other Adults in Petitioner(s) household (Name/DOB):
Additional information:
Addendum(s) To Confidential Information Form attached. List other parties or children in Addendum(s).
I certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the state of Washington that the above information is true and accurate concerning myself and is accurate to the best of my knowledge as to the other party, or is unavailable. The information is unavailable because
.
Signed on __________________ (Date) at ____________________________________ (City and State).
Petitioner/Respondent
ADDENDUM TO CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION FORM (AD)
County: Cause Number: Do not file in a
Court Clerk: This is a Restricted Access Document public access file.
The following information about additional parties is required in all cases.
Additional Petitioner Information Type or Print Only Additional Respondent Information
Name (Last, First, Middle)
Name (Last, first, Middle)
Race
Sex
Birthdate
Race
Sex
Birthdate
Drivers Lic. or Identicard (# and State)
Drivers Lic. or Identicard (# and State), (or, if unavailable, residential address)
Mailing Address (P.O. Box/Street, City, State, Zip)
Mailing Address (P.O. Box/Street, City, State, Zip)
Relationship to Child(ren)
Relationship to Child(ren)
The following information is required if there are additional children involved in the proceeding.
(Soc. Sec. No. is not required for petitions in protection order cases (Domestic Violence/Antiharassment/Sexual Assault).)
3) Child’s Name (Last, First, Middle)
Child’s Race/Sex/Birthdate
Child’s Soc. Sec. No. (If required)
Child’s Present Address or
Whereabouts
4) Child’s Name (Last, First, Middle)
Child’s Race/Sex/Birthdate
Child’s Soc. Sec. No. (If required)
Child’s Present Address or
Whereabouts
Except for petitions in protection order cases (Domestic Violence/Antiharassment/
Sexual Assault), the following information is required:
Additional Petitioner Information Additional Respondent Information
Soc. Sec. No.: Soc. Sec. No.:
Residential Address (Street, City, State, Zip)
Residential Address (Street, City, State, Zip)
E-mail Address: E-mail Address:
Telephone No.: ( ) Telephone No.: ( )
Employer: Employer:
Empl. Address:
Empl. Address:
Empl. Phone No.: ( ) Empl. Phone No.: ( )
Here is a link to the “Do It Yourself” Documents and Instructions.
http://www.lawhelp.org/documents/1475213240EN.pdf?stateabbrev=/WA/
Everything you put down you SWEAR TO as being correct, so you have already told them the names dates etc of your childen. Therefore the court DOES NOT need more papers.
Now just in case you say, well that is Washington State, here is a link to Hawaii’s divorce packet. Let me know if you find where it says you have to supply BC.
http://www.easy-divorce.com/Hawaii-Forms.htm
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As I have pointed out before you DO NOT have to provide a BC of your children to get a divorce.”
That is not correct.
The issue of requirement for a birth certificate in a divorce proceeding involving children; particularly children where the parties are purported to be both parents; and particularly when the children are under twelve or fourteen; depends on the local jurisdiction; and further depends on when the issue came up.
In the modern world, most of this stuff is now handled by a separate court division, Family Court; which usually, in most jurisdictions has it own local rules. And in the modern world, generally, for the child of the parties under twelve, the most common rule would require a birth certificate.
In 1964, seldom were there Family Courts; most local rules didn't address family law specifics. The local judge or judges would have decided on a basic pattern which would have been communicated the lawyers who did divorce work in their courts--actually, would be surprising to me to find, even in 64, a judge who didn't make the parties produce a birth certificate at a minimum. And I suppose I wouldn't be surprised to find that the judge didn't force the parties to prove the identity of the child at issue to the birth certificate. Matter of fact, I doubt today a court would do that.