Posted on 07/22/2012 9:22:02 AM PDT by frithguild
I think I picked up on the new narrative to set up a false argument. Chris Wallace has re-framed the argument to today on FNS a few times: The answer is not fewer guns, but more guns - this framed the gun-grabbers from the CC proponents. I really don’t think it is quantity, but placement. In other words, those who own their existing guns need to be allowed conceal-carry so they can be effective in the reduction of mass-murder and to be used for individual self-defense.
If I were a politician in a small community I would attempt to model after Israel.
Make open carry commonplace. Insure everyone has a gun, all the time everywhere.
What a stupid statement. Many would be opposed to such a plan no matter what it delivered. We still have our rights, dumbaXX.
Our problem is that the shooter in this case will never face any punishment that he would really fear. He will be coddled, where even the death sentence will be little more than taking a nap. We are too civilized!
Give these types of killers some real pain on the way to death. Sure, some will commit suicide, but some will not. Stop those that you can.
The coverage of these killers should reflect what they really are, Cowards. Unable to deal with the real world.
They said this guy spent a month booby trapping his apartment ,so he had a month to wake up and realize what he was doing ,he was going to do anything to make this happen and laws would never stop him
I is not nor ever will be the firearms. It is the individuals who have them.
When you have about 3 million seriously mentally Ill with homicidal tendencies walking the streets, this is what happens. Get them handled and you go a long way to solving the problem.
These people are NUTS, plain and simple. Yet when they take their medication, they are fine, and many are at the genius level of intelligence. Yet because of lack of funding at the local and state level, these people are not watched by people in the field and they are left to their own devices. BTW, Obamacare cuts further, the funding for mental health organizations.
Remember Ted Bundy? or This?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578292,00.html
Do you know who is standing next to you in the store?
A smart guy like that could have easily fashioned a horrifying Propane bomb, which would have killed at least half in the theater.
Well then.
BAN PROPANE!!!!!11!!1!
The guy had 30 explosive devices and 30 artillery shells. It’s idiotic to be suggesting gun control because of this horrific incident.
I met and rejected a strange PhD-candidate genius guy in school - stalked me for a while
His weapon of choice was cyanide
Luckily he only used it on himself
A canister of cyanide in a theater could have also killed dozens
Until we grapple on how to identify and deal with potentially violent mentally ill, there will be mass murders, by other means if not guns.
Mentally ill people can get plenty of ideas and inspiration from violent “entertainment” in our pop culture
We can’t have that. The goal of our governmnet it seems is to have us all cowering and scared everywhere we go.
I can see the day that we will hand over our personal security to a group like the TSA. Searches in theaters, train stations, bus stations, malls, sporting events, you name it.
And of course we will have ALLOWED it with hardly anybody even speaking out against it. Just like we’ve ALLOWED the bastards to get away with taking half of our hard earned money by taxation.
It was a great nation while it lasted.
No offense intended, but that sounds very much like a Democrat-progressive statement. No amount of funding is going to guarantee that every crazy out there takes his meds every day. Hey, wait- there's a great use for those FEMA reeducation camps that they have set up for us conservatives should they retain power...
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Most likely this nut simply became afflicted with adult-onset schizophrenia, most likely a paranoid mixed type. Hes at the age of most probable development. No doubt, were going hear from his family and former friends that he had been acting increasingly strange during the preceding months.
If this country was serious about stopping these kinds of tragedies, it would mount a sustained national campaign to educate our country about the signs and symptoms of this disease and how to go about getting help for the afflicted individuals.
But thats not going to happen. For a couple of reasons. First, its beneficial to the Communists that run our country for these kinds of massacres to continue, since they can be used to influence a mentally weak public into willingly giving up their 2nd amendment rights.
I have a betteridea.
Lest’s pass a law against murder.
That would stop it.
He will be coddled, where even the death sentence will be little more than taking a nap.
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It is not.
http://www.freecdtracts.com/heavenandhell.htm
Here’s my plan:
1) speedy trial/conviction
2) altar call by someone good at it
3) pastors available (NOT Muslims)
4) death penalty in 10 days after conviction
Typos typos
I'm as pro-2nd Amendment as they come, but there's also a matter of property rights to be considered. As stupid as it is, if a theater owner, restaurant owner, mall owner, etc. choose to disallow firearms, so be it. If however, they choose to do so, they need to be held 100% liable for the safety and security of their patrons. In this case, every CCW holder who complied with theater policy and left their firearm at home or in the car, should be entitled to HUGE damage awards against the theater owner for inhibiting their right to protect themselves, and making no accomodation to protect them.
That would not fly.
First thing the defense lawyer would point out is that you were not forced to enter the property.
In the case of government property; DMV, Post Office, courts, etc., I do believe that they should be required to protect you or pay damages.
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