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To: butterdezillion

Think I pinged you to the earlier comments about the delayed registered BC. One of the methods was paper signed by parents...with an s. Since change of custody or termination of parental rights could have been done with a mailed affidavit from Kenya, it would have been unnecessary for SR to travel half way around the world....Appears his required signature for a delayed BC would....Isn’t that one of your conclusions?


60 posted on 07/26/2012 8:37:57 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

If the BC was accepted by the local registrar on Aug 8, 1961 as Onaka claimed their record says, it could not be a delayed birth certificate. A delayed birth certificate was on a different form and was for births that were reported a year or more after the birth. If somebody reported that birth by Aug 8, 1961 the local registrar would have put the information on a birth certificate form and tried to gather any missing items within the 30 days allowable by statute. If all the REQUIRED items were gathered within that 30-day window, there was no consequence for the extra time (Note: information about the father was not REQUIRED, so a BC would not be considered incomplete just because the father’s info was missing). If the BC was not completed by the end of that time, it would remain unnumbered and “pending”. If the HDOH collected BC’s for a month before numbering them it could have been an attempt to accommodate the 30-day window for BC’s to be completed.

An incomplete BC could be completed any time after that but would have to be marked as “LATE” once it was complete. And whatever was missing had to be significant because it was required, so it would probably be a major administrative amendment and thus require the “ALTERED” stamp as well. And all amendments other than legitimations had to be noted in the last item of the BC, even if “ALTERED” didn’t have to be stamped on the BC.

I’ve seen a BC which notes that a first name was added to the BC within the first 6 months after the birth - an acceptable amendment that doesn’t alter the validity of the BC and thus doesn’t require the ALTERED stamp but does require the amendment to be noted in the blank supplied for that.

I’m basing these comments on the actual Hawaii statutes and HDOH Administrative Rules.


63 posted on 07/26/2012 8:58:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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