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BREAKING NEWS! Boy Whose Hot Dog Cart Was Shut Down by the City of Holland Now Homeless
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 8/9/2012 | Anne Schieber

Posted on 08/10/2012 9:48:41 AM PDT by MichCapCon

HOLLAND, Mich. — Several weeks after a city zoning officer shut down his hot dog business, 13-year-old Nathan Duszynski and his parents are homeless.

The family was hoping Nathan’s hot dog cart could help them through a difficult time. Nathan’s mother, Lynette Johnson, suffers from epilepsy and his stepfather, Doug Johnson, has multiple sclerosis. Their illnesses have restricted them from finding permanent, full-time work.

The family receives about $1,300 a month in disability payments, Medicaid and food assistance. The three are having a hard time staying together. MLive confirms what the Mackinac Center learned Thursday — Nathan and his mother are staying at the Holland Rescue Mission.

"Nate and I are now in a shelter," Lynette Johnson said. "Doug can't stay with us because he takes prescription narcotics to deal with his pain and the shelter does not allow him with those kinds of drugs."

She said the situation has been stressful on the family. Lynette is afraid to be away from her husband in case she has a seizure.

Nathan wanted to help out his family by selling hot dogs from a cart he bought with money he saved. He worked out an arrangement with the owner of a local sporting goods store to sell hot dogs in the parking lot. The owner of the store thought it would be a great way to attract customers and even offered Nathan a sales commission if he got people to rent his motorized bicycles.

The city of Holland, however, shut down the business 10 minutes after it opened, informing Nathan it was in the city’s commercial district where food carts not connected to downtown brick-and-motor restaurants are prohibited. The Mackinac Center’s coverage of the issue has drawn national attention.

Last week, Nathan and his family made an appeal to the Holland City Council. Mayor Kurt Dykstra defended the city’s ordinance, saying it was to protect downtown restaurant owners, who asked that the "success of the downtown district not be infringed upon by those who don't share in the costs of maintaining the attractiveness of that space."


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: licensing

1 posted on 08/10/2012 9:48:48 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

Let’s see if the Obama campaign can tie this to Romney?


2 posted on 08/10/2012 9:50:45 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Hope there are some folks in West Michigan who can help this kid and his family out.

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3 posted on 08/10/2012 9:53:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
"Hope there are some folks in West Michigan who can help this kid and his family out."

The sad thing is, the kid and his family sound fully willing to help themselves out, but a dickweed mayor and city council are preventing them from doing so.

4 posted on 08/10/2012 9:56:14 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

My frustration with this story is that the city was willing to work with them. There were many other areas where the boy could put his cart, but his parents wouldn’t hear of it. They wanted the cart where *they* wanted the cart.

One of their reasons? “It makes good business sense.” They wanted to put the cart where there was no competition!

Now the story paints the city as if they were the bad guys when this family flatly refused to work within the same rules that every other vender works with. As soon as they heard that they couldn’t have it their way, they whined to the press, gave up and made the boy sell the cart.

IMHO, these people are acting like spoiled brats and milking the sympathy factor for all it’s worth.


5 posted on 08/10/2012 10:01:01 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: kjo

He didn’t become homeless by himself. Government made it possible.


6 posted on 08/10/2012 10:01:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon

Anyone have a party affiliation?

http://www.wnj.com/kurt_dykstra/


7 posted on 08/10/2012 10:03:48 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: MichCapCon

The idea is to crush individuals. They got the guns and the courts. So easy in a tyranny.


8 posted on 08/10/2012 10:05:30 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: MichCapCon

While I admire and support the boy’s efforts, I personally can’t see anyone buying a hot dog in a parking lot from a 13 year old kid unless it was a “donation for a worthy cause” and the hot dog as lunch for Fido.


9 posted on 08/10/2012 10:07:26 AM PDT by varon
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To: MichCapCon

Another example of our mafia-like, crony loving, gangster government hurting the poor.

Heavan forbid the poor should try to sell something by the roadside without showing the necessary obeisance to, and sharing the profits with, the arm-twisting thugs of our collectivist overseers...


10 posted on 08/10/2012 10:11:38 AM PDT by ladyrustic (Get in the face of a liberal in honor of Breitbart.)
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To: MichCapCon

Government picking winners and losers.

If kid did not have access because his cart did not pay taxes to maintain area, then all the free-riders should not be allowed down there either.


11 posted on 08/10/2012 10:12:14 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: MichCapCon

I bet the major ran off right afterwards and masturbated thinking about his big victory.

Keep tolerating criminals. Its all so loving and liberal.


12 posted on 08/10/2012 10:16:12 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Basically the owners of other businesses use the local government to dictate what the sporting goods store owner can do. He saw it as a promotional thing with the potential to attract business while helping the kid and his family out.

Just goes to show that if business wants out from under the thumb of government, they need to refrain from running to government for solutions to minor problems. If they were smart they would have asked him to rotate to other locations in the area.


13 posted on 08/10/2012 10:23:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon

Sorry, but when a community has laws against people selling food without permits and health inspections I’m fine with it. Just the same as I was fine with the illegal alien in California getting arrested for selling tamales without permits or health inspections.

I admire the kid’s entrepreneurial spirit but he needs to focus on a legal enterprise.


14 posted on 08/10/2012 10:24:37 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: WKUHilltopper
What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed?

- James Madison


15 posted on 08/10/2012 10:29:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MeganC; Marie
Sorry, but when a community has laws against people selling food without permits and health inspections I’m fine with it. Just the same as I was fine with the illegal alien in California getting arrested for selling tamales without permits or health inspections.

Did we read different articles? I didn't read anything about where his cart was not up to code or not subject to health inspections.

Obviously the owner of a business was happy to have the cart there and provided space ON PRIVATE PROPERTY to allow the cart to operate.

16 posted on 08/10/2012 10:53:30 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: MeganC

I admire the kid’s entrepreneurial spirit but he needs to focus on a legal enterprise.


He had all his permits and inspections. The city zoning commission shut him down because he might compete with local restaurants.

Apparently the city didn’t him that BEFORE he paid for his permits and inspections.


17 posted on 08/10/2012 10:59:35 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Oh, no. From earlier articles that I read, he was just fine from a health and safety perspective.

The city just told him he had to put the cart somewhere else.

And his parents threw a huge pity party over that.

Because, don’t you know, they’re *special*... The rules don’t apply to them because they have a good sob story. They weren’t upset with the rules, they just thought that they should be the exception.


18 posted on 08/10/2012 11:10:35 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Marie
Because, don’t you know, they’re *special*... The rules don’t apply to them because they have a good sob story. They weren’t upset with the rules, they just thought that they should be the exception.

I'd agree with you if his cart would have been situated on public property downtown. However, his cart would have been on private property.

19 posted on 08/10/2012 11:19:18 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: MichCapCon

They get a sizable monthly check, have all the dumpy apartments and trailers disappeared in Michigan?


20 posted on 08/10/2012 11:25:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: MichCapCon

“Socialists shutdown Nathan’s hot dogs”


21 posted on 08/10/2012 11:33:17 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: varon
While I admire and support the boy’s efforts, I personally can’t see anyone buying a hot dog in a parking lot from a 13 year old kid unless it was a “donation for a worthy cause” and the hot dog as lunch for Fido.

Based on that comment alone, I have $50 that says you're not an urbanite. I don't know about Holland, MI, but in New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, L.A., etc., customers wouldn't bat an eye.

22 posted on 08/10/2012 11:42:40 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: VeniVidiVici

When I bought my property in Texas, there were two restrictions. I could not operate a dump or a pig farm on my property. I knew that when I signed the papers.

So let’s say that I started breeding piglets and selling them for $30 each. Then, when the county tells me to stop (didn’t fine me, didn’t cite me, just politely tells me that I’m breaking the rules) I cry to the press and start gathering public support because I’m disabled and I’m special and this is the way I make my egg money...

I would never buy property in an HOA because I want autonomy. The private property owner *should* know the rules in the area where he bought the property.

Don’t like the rules? Vote, lobby, petition, etc.

But a family can’t waltz in, do whatever they want and expect special treatment because they’re disabled.

My son is a T-1 diabetic. Nobody’s fault. It’s an autoimmune disease.

He gets NO breaks. No free grants or college money, no help from the gov’t for his medical needs, nothing. And we raised him to not expect them. He can’t join the military (even though it’s his greatest dream and he has actually smoked the Seal challenge multiple times) and he’s had to learn how to deal with that. Fair or not, he’s not special and that restriction applies to him. I’ve encouraged him to lobby congress to change the rule, but not JUST for him.

This family was not cited or fined. They were just told that he had to move the cart. The city offered them multiple locations to operate the cart from and bent over backwards to help them do it right. These people aren’t arguing that the rules are stupid or the the private property owner has the right to invite them to operate a business on his property, they’re arguing that they should be the exception because the parents are disabled.

If my son tried that crap, I’d kick his butt. I’d tell him to start pushing his damn cart down the street a couple of blocks and that he’s better bone up on his salesmanship in order to deal with the competition.

Yes, the Law is an ass.

But don’t use your disability to try to take an advantage. EVERYBODY has a sob story.


23 posted on 08/10/2012 12:07:12 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: chaosagent

Yeah, when this story first hit the news it was clear that he had gotten the permits needed but the dispute arose after the fact.


24 posted on 08/10/2012 12:39:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon
This is a local issue reported nationally without proper details or context of Holland's downtown environment. Unlike most towns, Holland's downtown is enviably and extremely bustling and vibrant. Downtown merchants pay apportioned fees for the free parking, snow-melt, sidewalk performers, and the many other amenities drawing huge crowds of local and vacationing people to Holland's downtown. Many transient and seasonal vendors would like to take advantage of this market, without equitably paying the past and current fees creating and providing the infrastructure and environment. If Holland lets this 13-year-old with a hot dog stand and a touching story purvey his product, then the town will have to allow all vendors, or be sued. Not fair to the downtown merchants or to the people that enjoy the downtown planned and protected by the town board. We live in a land in fear of litigation . . . taking an image beating by denying a boy and his hot dog stand pales in comparison to paying millions to lawyers and those they represent.
25 posted on 08/10/2012 12:43:44 PM PDT by wildhog
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To: Melas
True enough, we don't have a lot of vendors in this neck of the woods.

I've got a fully prepared concession trailer with a complete kitchen in it (Freezer, fryers, grill etc) sitting in the driveway sealed up like a tomb waiting for the day when the economy makes it worth taking to local events and doing business.

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Right now its as dormant as it can be and it still comes with a special tax form that needs to be filled out and returned every year. Activating it will cost the taxes to skyrocket and that's before a single cup of coffee can be made in it. I've got to rent both commercial freeze and kitchen space whether I use them or not. there are health inspections and costs. Then there are new county and state permits needed plus whatever permits are required for specific events. It costs thousands of dollars for a permit to take something like this to a NASCAR track for a weekend.

Unless there is drastic change in this country, the trailer will sit there and rot away as I try to squeak by and fight to avoid taking government help for my own survival.
26 posted on 08/10/2012 1:19:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Nice unit. Good condition on the outside. Pity you can’t hook up with a traveling carnival.


27 posted on 08/10/2012 1:43:47 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Its like new inside because its sealed up tight. I was in there this morning to check for leaks and evidence of mice. In fact when I opened the door there was a partial vacuum.


28 posted on 08/10/2012 2:05:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

It’d be great at large family reunions. Do you have to get it all permitted if you’re not selling the food? Since you can just park it until needed, I assume it’s paid for which is really cool.


29 posted on 08/10/2012 2:47:42 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: varon

You’ve obviously never been to a Home Depot in the Metro DC area.


30 posted on 08/10/2012 2:51:01 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yeah I can use it privately any way I want but my family isn’t big enough to drag around for family events.


31 posted on 08/10/2012 3:07:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, my family’s not that large either. But that is a really cool thing to have, provided one knows how to use it. Does it come with a soda fountain?


32 posted on 08/10/2012 3:10:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: School of Rational Thought
Government picking winners and losers.

Government picking wieners and losers.

33 posted on 08/10/2012 3:18:24 PM PDT by LimitedPowers (Citizenship is not a Hate Crime!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Does it come with a soda fountain?

Yeah, its pretty much complete. I paid $10 grand cash and if we ever get out from under this cloud of taxation and regulation I think I can make a decent living with it.
34 posted on 08/10/2012 3:24:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

I bet you could. There a lot of carnival operators that run large, State Fair size operations, then split into a bunch of small carnivals that travel around. It may be more common here, though, because we have a long warm season while everybody else is closed for Winter. Little towns have “Founder’s Day” festivals.

Like you need me to tell you any of this...LOL. But you did get it for a good price if the inside is as nice as the outside. It sucks you have to shell out more thousands before you can sell the first cheeseburger. Makes me wish MIS had more races.


35 posted on 08/10/2012 3:43:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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