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What Will The End Of The United States Look Like ?
Alan Levy's Brain | 8/19/12 | Alan Levy

Posted on 08/19/2012 10:36:43 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama

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To: MestaMachine

Agreed, SA’s history is quite different from ours. I’m focusing more on its current path of collectivism and hate.

You bring up a great point about languages. SA has 11 official languages. That’s no way run a society.

Good to “see” you again! Long time, kid!


61 posted on 08/19/2012 12:19:35 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: dragnet2

Agreed.


62 posted on 08/19/2012 12:21:06 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Psalm 144

I think Putin is just about to change that....just a hunch....


63 posted on 08/19/2012 12:24:08 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Not really. He moved it from a near anarchy to an authoritarian model, which has been Russia’s norm. There is no comparison between Lenin’s Soviet Union and Putin’s Russian Federation.


64 posted on 08/19/2012 12:28:02 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Old Sarge

Yes, the black’s the world over have been doing this for ever. Africa is the only place in the world that has not done a damn thing to improve anything.


65 posted on 08/19/2012 12:29:10 PM PDT by tiger63
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To: Psalm 144

I don’t trust Putin as far as I can throw him, but he’s better than Stalin or Khruschev.


66 posted on 08/19/2012 12:33:22 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I would suspect it will end in succession of various states and possibly followed by civil war. But what the hell would then happen about possible international conflict directed at us from abroad? It looks ugly to me.

The only salvation that I can see for the United States is a Switzerland type government of cantons. Each canton pretty much runs its own business and the Central Government takes care of international relations and defense. In this manner the Swiss have been able to blend German, Italian and French culture into a very functional nation. What I am really saying is state rights must be returned to the States and the Federal Government must be minimal.


67 posted on 08/19/2012 12:34:01 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

No argument there.


68 posted on 08/19/2012 12:35:00 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Psalm 144

The Sovs break up was a lot less painful then it should of been thanks to a whole bunch of hard work and money from the US and the West to make is so. When we fall, like Rome, there will be no one to hold back the darkness


69 posted on 08/19/2012 12:36:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: cpdiii

You are talking about an authentic federalism. The Civil War effectively killed that. I agree that it is the only way forward without mass slaughter or dissolution.


70 posted on 08/19/2012 12:37:18 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: cpdiii

I hope I don’t see any that in my lifetime and I hope my children won’t see it either.


71 posted on 08/19/2012 12:38:39 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: MNJohnnie

We are also a more volatile people than the essentially beaten down Soviets were. Our dissolution would more likely resemble that of Yugoslavia, writ very, very large.

Still, I prefer that to a totalitarian union.


72 posted on 08/19/2012 12:39:24 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

The biggest difference is that Putin and even all the Soviet leaders after Lenin have been Russian nationalists while 0bama is anti-American. This makes 0bama even more of a leftist-internationalist than Putin.


73 posted on 08/19/2012 12:54:29 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I was not addressing the issues you raise. Just honestly commenting on the illegals living near me. But I thank you for not giving an emotional, tirade-ridden response.


74 posted on 08/19/2012 12:56:57 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

No problem! I save my tirdes for the racebaiters on the left.

:)


75 posted on 08/19/2012 12:59:07 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: reg45

“This makes 0bama even more of a leftist-internationalist than Putin.”

If that doesn’t keep you awake at night, nothing will.


76 posted on 08/19/2012 1:02:22 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“MAy start out like something similar but you have no idea of what singularities will occur that could totally change the direction of where events go.”

Well, there are 4 key variables. SCOTUS, Congress, The Senate and the Presidency.

Once all 4 are run by a single entity, there isn’t anything anyone can do. Even without a filibuster proof Senate, the rules would be changed.

At that point anyone going up against the government can and would be brought up on charges of sedition. Add in the masses from the left and we are talking French Revolution.

I talk to lib friends and they say it would never happen. Yet they are the ones running around with the “Bush = Hitler signs.”

It is scary.


77 posted on 08/19/2012 1:03:19 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Mike Darancette
"A check mark next to Obama’s name on Nov. 6."

Or a thumb up a butt On Nov. 6.

78 posted on 08/19/2012 1:04:01 PM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: dragnet2
all while the government gives them free medical care

Washington State dropped all those who couldn't prove legal residence from Basic Health five years ago. I understand the situation in California is different.

they break all the rules and laws

Some do. But I invite you to my neighborhood to elucidate just what rules and laws are being broken by the many illegals (other than residency). It isn't at all obvious to me and I know several personally. Again, I am commenting on my neighborhood and the surrounding areas.

79 posted on 08/19/2012 1:04:12 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
You know, I am taking a new cardiac medication which has the side effect of calming emotional over-responsiveness. Really seems to cut down on the hyperreactivity (described by a former FReeper) in some of my own posts and real life as well. I like it. Hope this effect continues.
80 posted on 08/19/2012 1:10:18 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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