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Union Rules: Despite No Horses, Detroit Water Department Employs 'Horseshoer'
Capitol Confidential ^ | 8/20/2012 | Jarrett Skorup

Posted on 08/20/2012 5:44:39 AM PDT by MichCapCon

Despite having no horses, the water and sewerage department for the city of Detroit employs a horseshoer.

Yet even with a department so bloated that it has a horseshoer and no horses, the local union president said it is "not possible" to eliminate positions.

Union rules have turned the department into a government jobs program, some critics say...

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 2012; bustunions; corruption; democrats; detroit; farrier; horse; horseshoer; liberalfascism; michigan; union; unioncorruption; unions

1 posted on 08/20/2012 5:44:46 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: cripplecreek

You may want this one for the Michigan Ping List.


2 posted on 08/20/2012 5:59:25 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: MichCapCon
the city of Detroit employs a horseshoer.
I believe the official job title is Ferrier.
My great uncle learned to be Ferrier during WWI and practiced in Hempstead NY until the mid 1950s when the demand for his services dwindled.
Too bad he didn't live in Detroit - he could still be drawing a paycheck - even though he died in the '60s.
3 posted on 08/20/2012 6:02:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: MichCapCon
Despite having no horses, the water and sewerage department for the city of Detroit employs a horseshoer.

It isn't such a bad idea to keep him on the payroll. I mean, the entire city is collapsing into chaos. Roads aren't paved, city buses are in disrepair. I suspect that within the next couple of years, the city will be using horses as a means of transportation again. It happened in Greece when their Welfare State collapsed.

4 posted on 08/20/2012 6:05:15 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: oh8eleven
It's 'Farrier' and this story needs to go viral. People need to understand that Unions are not good!
5 posted on 08/20/2012 6:13:47 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: MichCapCon
"They don't have enough people as it is right now," Riehl said. "They are just dreaming to think they can operate that plant with less."

In other words, "They are just dreaming to think we (the YoonYun) will let them operate that plant with less."
6 posted on 08/20/2012 6:16:10 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: liberalh8ter

I stand corrected - thx.


7 posted on 08/20/2012 6:17:29 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

In the meantime, they can make the whole government wear horseshoes.


8 posted on 08/20/2012 6:18:59 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: MichCapCon

Is it possible that this farrier is used for the City of Detroit’s mounted police unit?


10 posted on 08/20/2012 6:27:05 AM PDT by madison10 (You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: liberalh8ter
NP. You could still probably submit a resume for your deceased Uncle. Since this story is out, they may need to fire the farrier they have (and hire a new one).
11 posted on 08/20/2012 6:27:20 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

If anyone wants to be added to the Michigan Cap Con ping list, let me know.

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12 posted on 08/20/2012 6:28:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon

That position would still be needed if he worked for a police department that had a mounted division like New York but the water department?


13 posted on 08/20/2012 6:28:30 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Hardraade
In the meantime, they can make the whole government wear horseshoes.

They have to in order to support the horses a**es that spend our $.

15 posted on 08/20/2012 6:34:46 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: OldMissileer

Perhaps the motor city hasn’t heard that there’s a new invention that some are calling a horseless carriage.


16 posted on 08/20/2012 6:35:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon

Who occupies this position and what does he do all day?


17 posted on 08/20/2012 6:37:23 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: chrisser
This will be an interesting battle. An outside analysis firm says the Detroit city water dept. Needs about 400 employees to make it run efficiently. It currently has 2000. Also the water Dept. has some 250 job classifications(apparently including "horse shoer"), and the analysis team said it needs only about 40. Me , personally I am very pessimistic about Detroit being able to turn it around. In the words of Corporal Hicks from the movie "Aliens" :

"I say we nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure"

CC

18 posted on 08/20/2012 6:45:08 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Q: how did you find America? A: turn left at Greenland)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Me , personally I am very pessimistic about Detroit being able to turn it around.

That's what the emergency manager law is for. Unfortunately Detroit is fighting it every step of the way. Personally I would compromise and make Dave Bing the emergency manager. We wouldn't get all the cuts you or I would like but there would be big cuts.
19 posted on 08/20/2012 6:50:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: oh8eleven
"Too bad he didn't live in Detroit - he could still be drawing a paycheck - even though he died in the '60s."

Not to worry - even if he can't get paid the Democrats will make sure he still votes at least two or three times each election...

(Not slamming your great uncle of course, may he rest in peace - just noting the indecency of the left)
20 posted on 08/20/2012 6:57:13 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: cripplecreek
Perhaps the motor city hasn’t heard that there’s a new invention that some are calling a horseless carriage.

With all the recalls and problems with GM vehicles I would say they haven't.

21 posted on 08/20/2012 7:08:32 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: MichCapCon

They might not have any horses to shoe, but I’m sure there are plenty of political and union A**’s that could could use a shoeing out the door, figuratively speaking.


22 posted on 08/20/2012 7:30:22 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Mr. K

I think a main point of irony here is that there are more horses now in the US than there were in use around 1900 and they can’t figure out how to farm this guy out to make a buck on the side...


23 posted on 08/20/2012 7:46:28 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: MichCapCon

***the local union president said it is “not possible” to eliminate positions. ***

The term is “featherbeding”. Railroads have been required to keep boiler operators (firemen) on diesel engine trains since the days of the old coal fired trains.


24 posted on 08/20/2012 7:53:55 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: MichCapCon

Sounds like a ghost employee. The checks are written and cashed but by whom?


25 posted on 08/20/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

No offense taken. In fact, I’m PO’d for not thinking of the “multiple votes” death benefit myself.


26 posted on 08/20/2012 8:39:50 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: MichCapCon

Not so fast..

With all of the Horses#it that the Unions dish out, one could assume that the Union Reprsentives that I meet are HorsesA$$, a Horseshoer, Farrier, might be appropriate..


27 posted on 08/20/2012 8:47:44 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: madison10

No, silly! The DPS union employs mechanics In the
Mounted police division


28 posted on 08/20/2012 10:01:44 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: madison10

My dad retired from the mounted division in 1950. If Detroit still has a mounted division, they also have their own farrier and vet. Use to have stables at Belle Isle, Palmer Park, and the one down town was either Buthune or Bobian, can’t remember which....they might have had one more stable, cannnot remember its name...


29 posted on 08/20/2012 11:07:50 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: FrdmLvr
LOL That makes total sense.
30 posted on 08/20/2012 11:33:56 AM PDT by madison10 (You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: oh8eleven
We have some traveling ferrier's around here.......

I've shod a horse before...it's back breaking work. Not something I'd want to do for a living.

31 posted on 08/20/2012 11:40:55 AM PDT by Osage Orange ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread.")
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To: goat granny

But we are talking about the WATER Dept. here, not the police. The police would make more sense if they had a mounted div. as most large cities do (for crowd control mainly).


32 posted on 08/20/2012 1:59:44 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: mc5cents

my only point was that perhaps the mounted division had their budget department cut and the farrier was needed so it just got stuck under another department...I am sure their budget runs into thousands of pages.... Mounted bureau also needs a good leather man to take care of tack and a vet. I think the cops use to sweep the aisle. I don’t know who may have taken care of the cleaning of the stalls, but I remember a picture my dad had of a bunch of the guys tossing one of the men into the pile of straw and whatever else, ie: horse biscuits and everyone was laughing even the guy in the pile.....could have been a new cop in that barn, I don’t know or someone that lost a bet..That would have been early 40’s...


33 posted on 08/20/2012 3:10:23 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: cripplecreek; Perdogg

[singing] how I wish, how I horseshoer here...


34 posted on 08/20/2012 5:37:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: goat granny

My dad retired from the DPD in 1964. I believe the address of which you were thinking is 1300 Beaubien. It was Police HQS.


35 posted on 08/21/2012 5:02:28 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax
thanks but they also had a stable I believe and it must have been Bethune. My dad did some of the training of new horse's brought in and that (I think)) was downtown...Your a good speller on Beaubien. :O) I only remember him talking about a couple of horses, one new one panicked like a horse can do, ran into the high wood fence and broke his neck....horses can be very skittish. Another one, a Thoroughbred (which the department didn't use) but the head of the mounted division wanted it....It was given to the department by some rich dude that raised thoroughbreds but under the condition that if the horse didn't work out, he was to be destroyed....The donater didn't want the horse to fall into the hands of someone that wouldn't take care of it....(lots of problems with race horses and abuse)...The horse didn't work out. I believe most of the breeds they used were Saddle-bred...But that was many decades ago, I might be a bit off of my memory....
36 posted on 08/21/2012 8:22:01 PM PDT by goat granny
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