#USembassy: Important questions we have to answer (Egyptians asking the hard questions)

Egyptian Chronicles ^ | September 12, 2012 | Staff

[bronxville]

Wednesday, September 12, 2012

#USembassy: Important questions we have to answer

After the huge conquest of US embassy in Cairo yesterday and what followed from implications that have not finished up till now , still there are several questions that many Egyptians “including me” ask themselves today about the whole scene: -

Why do People suddenly remember that offensive home made film now when it was produced from several months ago??

Why was the first one to air the video publicly on any TV channel was rude Khaled Abdullah on Salafist TV channel Al Nas ?? Khaled Abdullah is said to be from the state security men in Islamist realm in Egypt since 1990s by the way. I do not understand already why Abdullah would air such offensive crappy film for his Ultra-Conservative viewers and to spread the film in this way!?? I did not want to post clips from that crappy short film but I have to post this clip to prove that Abdullah was the first to speak about it in Egypt publicly on TV.

Where was the police? Where was the security?? There was no single policeman, not even the army units that used to protect the embassy since the revolution at the embassy!!? Abnormal scene for anyone has ever crossed two blocks away from the US embassy!?? I do not understand how the security forces beat the crap out of the protesters who wanted to occupy the Syrian embassy from two weeks!? For God sake the security forces protected Borg Al Arab stadium than the embassy!!

Where were the security forces when the Egyptian intelligence allegedly warned that there could be terrorist attacks against American and Israeli embassies and interests in Egypt!!!?????? Yes it seems that the Egyptian intelligence warned from that according to former presidential candidate and intelligence officer Ahmed Hossam Khairallah!! There have been Jihadist Salafists yesterday in the protest!!?? What is going on!??

Why did the Salafist calling group “which include many Sheikhs that used to cooperate with State security” choose the Ultras groups??

Why do Shafiq and Mubarak support these protests amazingly?? Are they happy that the Americans are tasting from their so-called poison aka Islamists!?

At the same time the Zamalek Ultras was escalating the walls of US embassy, some members of Ultras Ahlawy 07 were at the Mohamed Mahmoud Street after being invited by the group on Facebook for some event, the UA07 cancelled that event and the UA07 boys left. I do not know what event it was but I feel that UA07 felt there was some sort of trap and left.

There are four protesters that have been arrested yesterday and accused of breaching the US embassy. Who are they??

We need answers on these questions because something is not normal about yesterday’s scene.

http://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.com/2012/09/usembassy-important-questions-we-have.html#more

[bronxville]

“Why was the first one to air the video publicly on any TV channel was rude Khaled Abdullah on Salafist TV channel Al Nas ?? Khaled Abdullah is said to be from the state security men in Islamist realm in Egypt since 1990s by the way. I do not understand already why Abdullah would air such offensive crappy film for his Ultra-Conservative viewers and to spread the film in this way!?? I did not want to post clips from that crappy short film but I have to post this clip to prove that Abdullah was the first to speak about it in Egypt publicly on TV.”
http://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.com/2012/09/usembassy-important-questions-we-have.html#more

The politics of outrage is still an irresistible temptation
Issandr El Amrani
Sep 13, 2012

“And why do organisers sometimes lie, as when Nader Bakkar - who speaks for Egypt’s Salafi Nour Party, a partner with President Mohammed Morsi’s party - told Al Jazeera Mubasher that the film had been broadcast on US channels?”

“And why, despite the risks of escalation made obvious by the attack that killed four American diplomats in Benghazi, did the Muslim Brotherhood’s secretary general, Mahmoud Ghozlan, call for new protests after Friday prayers?”
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/the-politics-of-outrage-is-still-an-irresistible-temptation

Muslim world seethes, but who is pulling the strings?
Hassan Hassan
Sep 17, 2012

“Recently, years after my classmate led his march on the Danish embassy, a US diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks alleged that the Baathist regime in Syria incited the riots and orchestrated the embassy arsons.”
“ Six years later, I find myself wondering whether Abdulsalam could have put down his torch and stowed his rage, resisting becoming a pawn of the Syrian regime.”

“I also know that we will be asking similar questions once this latest fire is extinguished.”
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/muslim-world-seethes-but-who-is-pulling-the-strings

[bronxville]

Video 2/3rds down page under this heading -> #USembassy: Bad day for US embassies in North Africa - 2/3rds down page.

“VIDEO showing the Consulate right after the attack on fire.”
http://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.com/

One can see a young man (@0.44) with a white shirt and black pants who looks very like the individual called “osama” who posted the video on youtube as reported by breitbart. One can also hear shots close to the end of the video.

[Bulwinkle]

wow!

[Irenic]

Whoa! At the 5 mark I SWEAR I hear a guy say "I bet they kill him" as people are heading into the bldg. You are correct, shot heard at 16 mark and at 1:00, towards the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGILRWEcHo&feature=player_embedded

[Irenic]

The video is somehow spliced towards the end. There is a white extended cab truck with people leaving the flaming building to get in. It first shows at about the 11 mark, then there's another gunshot right after at the 16 mark.

The same video shot shows up again at the 1:18 mark and a gunshot at the 1:23 mark. What is going on here????

Could somebody please save the video? I don't know how.

[TigersEye]

ME protests: the hardline 'tele-Islamist' who brought anti-Islam film to Muslim world's attention

...but nobody had paid attention to its crude libels against the Prophet Mohammed until Mr Abdullah's show broadcast clips from it last weekend,... - Sept. 8-9

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CNN: Protests against film a ‘diversion. Attack was planned’

Egypt intelligence warns (on Sept 4th) of attacks on Israel, US embassies

Congress was warned about Libya last month

Libyan president: 'No doubt' attack 'preplanned' (Magariaf on Face the Nation)

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U.S. denies premeditation report

"The Obama administration is flatly denying a blaring British newspaper report that the U.S. diplomats in Libya were killed as a result of a “continuing security breach,” and that “credible information” about possible attacks had been ignored. A U.S. official told POLITICO: “There's no intelligence indicating that the attack in Benghazi was premeditated.”"

[TigersEye]

No demonstration before attack on US Consulate, source says

"The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack."

[bronxville]

6/17/12 - Al-Qaeda Become Police in Libya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIyiM3PEWCU

It looks like the Libyan security at the US Embassy were “ex-rebels”

“Ambassador Chris Stevens and the three US officials were killed in a rocket attack on their car, as they were rushed from a consular building. in Benghazi.
Hundreds of protesters, angered by an US movie that insulted Prophet Mohammad, broke into the US consulate building in Benghazi. Earlier, after angry Feb17 “freedom fighters” now “Islamists” stormed Washington’s embassy in Cairo.

The rocket-propelled grenades were fired at the consulate from a nearby farm. Protesters then attacked the consulate and set fire to it.”

This is the same tape that Breitbart reported on yesterday - at 0.18 I think I hear an American accent...
http://www.blacklistednews.com/NY_Times_Spins_New_Video_of_Ambassador_Stevens/21555/0/38/38/Y/M.html
http://libyasos.blogspot.com/

I think Feb17 might have been the “ex-rebels” who worked with Chris Stevens during the transition. I do know from the a ME forum that the rebels were armed and trained on how to handle the police etc., by people from the US. After they were gone these thugs went around intimidating people into giving them protection money - mafia style.

I don’t know what’s what...but it stinks. I’m wondering if that truck was the vehicle they used to escape until hit by grenades. The shots that were fired didn’t appear to be from the compound...wonder if they were from the farm. Also wonder if those people we see going into the compound were kinda innocent...sent there by the murderers to ensure they were all dead - or perhaps to bring the body to them. Who knows....speculation.

Irenic - yes I heard him say something about “killing” - wondering why he said it in English. I don’t have time to investigate, most of my info came from a ME blog I used to frequent.

TigersEye: great info...thank you.

I hope to read the blog above later. I’d like to know more about the Feb17 rebel group!!!

[TigersEye]

Thanks back to you for all of your posting. Six days later and the administration’s story has come apart at the seams. IMO much more will come out before this is all over.

[bronxville]

"“I have met with these brave fighters, and they are not Al-Qaeda. To the contrary: They are Libyan patriots who want to liberate their nation. We should help them do it.” – Senator John McCain in Benghazi, Libya April 22, 2011." - What rebel group did they help?

[bronxville]

I jsut turned on the TV and see this video. I sent it to Breitbart yesterday but haven’t had a chance to see if they posted it. Glad someone found it.

There’s a video on the recent link of the Ambassador in the morgue. I believe the whole Arab Spring was set-up by the US and the Muslim Brotherhood which is why they/he were training ex-terrorists. It all backfired.

Bottomline: I still think it’s all to do with the UN Resolution 16/18 which impinges on our free speech but Obama and Hillary couldn’t care less because they both support it.

Thanks again TigersEye. I wish I had the time to research but alas I gotta work for a living. :)

[Irenic]

Found this interesting—seems centered around a Portland mosque

hteeteep://feb17.info/news/oregon-man-asks-why-he-was-queried-by-fbi-in-tunisia/

Oregon man asks why he was queried by FBI in Tunisia
Posted on February 16, 2012 by to0mz

By Nigel Duara

A Libyan-American who says he was forbidden from returning to the United States and questioned by FBI agents in Tunisia after visiting neighboring Libya insists he has done nothing wrong.

[Irenic]

hteeteep://aseerun.org/2012/04/18/yonas-fikre-believed-to-be-latest-victim-in-fbis-proxy-torture-detention-program/

Yonas Fikre Believed to be Latest Victim in FBI’s Proxy Torture & Detention Program
18 Apr

*snip*
Last June, while Yonas Fikre was visiting the United Arab Emirates, the Muslim and United States Citizen from Portland, Oregon was suddenly arrested and detained by Emirati security forces. For the next three months, Fikre claims, he was repeatedly interrogated and tortured. Fikre says he was beaten on the soles of his feet, kicked and punched, and held in stress positions while interrogators demanded he “cooperate” and barked questions that were eerily similar to those posed to him not long before by FBI agents and other American officials who had requested a meeting with him.

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hteeteep://www.shoah.org.uk/2012/04/19/american-muslim-alleges-fbi-had-a-hand-in-his-torture/

Fikre had been visiting family in Khartoum, Sudan, when, in April 2010, the officials got in touch with him. He agreed to meet with them, but ultimately balked at cooperating with FBI questioning without a lawyer present and he rebuffed a request to become an informant. Pressing him to cooperate, the agents told him he was on the no-fly list and could not return home unless he aided the bureau, Fikre says. The following week he received an email from one of the US officials; it arrived from a State Department address: “Thanks for meeting with us last week in Sudan. While we hope to get your side of the issues we keep hearing about, the choice is yours to make. The time to help yourself is now.”

[bronxville]

Thank you Irenic. I see it’s a “Feb17” source - amazing blog - wonder whose paying for it - duh! :) It appears Feb17 are the favored ones, though from what I gather, many of them are mafia thugs. I’m shocked but glad the FBI are questioning these people. It looks as though they got the right ones as well considering the radical-criminal outfit CAIR flew a lawyer out to them and contacted their new blog to get the word out about malthreatment. I think those men are probably the Muslim Brotherhood. I’m of a mind that the MB are the brains, and the al-terrorists or “al-ex-terrorists or al-freedom fighters, are the brawn. Al-jazeera also do their bidding. Kinda like MSNBC and Obama - he’s soooooooooo like them.

PS: I get stopped all the time at airport security, double screened, etc. My dtr thinks it’s hilarious.

Thanks for the snapshots of the video. I saw a couple earlier that I would have liked copied, one was a well-decorated shoe held up in the hand of a protestor along with pictures of Barry - forget what the other one was...

[Irenic]

There are so many articles linked over there under VIDEO. I’m taking a break from it for tonight but I’ll be picking through it all again.

Yeah, I just happened across the site after following your lead. It wasn’t what I was looking for but they certainly have many articles conveniently linked, I may not learn much about 9/11/12 attack there but I’m learning more about Libya and their revolution. The good, the bad and the ugly.

Thanks for the heads-up on #Feb17 freedom fighters. There are more tribes and factions than one can shake a stick at. Seems there were many opportunist that popped in, too. Sad.

Oh and McCain...he said those fellas were his heroes and he wanted to bring them home to Az. He was grinning from ear-to-ear as he walked through an area where a guy had been beheaded. I think he’s a sick little man.