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Judge Emmet Sullivan Rules 14th Amendment Did Not Repeal Natural Born Citizen Requirement
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| Monday, October 1, 2012
Posted on 10/01/2012 3:58:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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This DC Federal judge states the obvious to anyone who has seriously studied this issue.
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posted on
10/01/2012 3:58:29 PM PDT
by
Red Steel
To: Red Steel
Muslims and Arabs, Arabs and Muslims - why do you allow them in the country??
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:05:03 PM PDT
by
Hardraade
(http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
To: afraidfortherepublic
To: Red Steel
Paging Mitt Romney, Fox News and anybody else that will listen. Oh Donald Trump, please pick up the red phone.
I pray I live long enough to see Obama shown as the fraud he is.
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:06:28 PM PDT
by
Qwackertoo
(Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
To: Qwackertoo
I pray I live long enough to see Obama shown as the fraud he is.
Me too. I didn’t know I could dislike someone so intensely. It would feel good to see him humiliated and imprisoned.
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:11:37 PM PDT
by
Josephat
To: Red Steel
The overwhelming conventional wisdom among the Judiciary is that the 14th Amendment modified the natural born citizen definition to mean
Jus Solis , or born on the soil of the United States without regard to the citizenship of the parents. This widespread belief is one of the reasons why the courts have scoffed at any challenge to Obama's eligibility. If this ruling were upheld by the higher courts, it would cause problems for Obama, but, of course, would come too late to make any difference.
My guess is that this opinion will not hold.
To: Red Steel
This does nothing about establishing a third type of citizenship. It only says there are two. A naturalized person can not run for president is still law. This has nothing to do with the “birther” issue of obama. This is some kook who was trying to run for president and obtain “free money”. The five other cases were all his and all on the same issues.
This was a waste and should have been headlined less deceptivly.
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:13:16 PM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: longtermmemmory
This does nothing about establishing a third type of citizenship. It only says there are two. A naturalized person can not run for president is still law. Here's where you get it wrong. The 14th Amendment is naturalization as to make citizens who where not citizens before to become citizens at birth. The 14th Amendment is manmade, which has nothing to do with natural law.
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:21:34 PM PDT
by
Red Steel
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:21:51 PM PDT
by
phockthis
(http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
To: centurion316
The overwhelming conventional wisdom among the Judiciary is that the 14th Amendment modified the natural born citizen definition to mean Jus Solis , or born on the soil of the United States without regard to the citizenship of the parents.Source of your statement?
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:22:28 PM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
To: Hardraade
Muslims and Arabs, Arabs and Muslims - why do you allow them in the country??I have no problem with Arab Christians coming to this country. Many have and been model citizens, contributing greatly to our country's welfare.
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:31:35 PM PDT
by
rmh47
(Go Kats! - Got eight? [NRA Life Member])
To: Red Steel
Obama will be sending some people over to talk to the Judge.
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:36:03 PM PDT
by
Venturer
To: Red Steel
Obama went to Indonesia as an American and came back to America as an Indonesian. In 1983, Obama naturalized as U.S. Citizen.
Obama is ineligible to be POTUS or VP because of his Certificate of Naturalization.
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:38:11 PM PDT
by
SvenMagnussen
(Gossip is Satan's talk radio.)
To: SvenMagnussen
Obama went to Indonesia as an American and came back to America as an Indonesian. In 1983, Obama naturalized as U.S. Citizen.
Obama is ineligible to be POTUS or VP because of his Certificate of Naturalization.”
Do you have a link, PDF, word document, etcetera to support what you said?
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posted on
10/01/2012 4:49:36 PM PDT
by
WildHighlander57
((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
To: Texas Fossil
Oh, let's start with Justice Scalia's opinion who believes that it's
Jus Solis (found here):
Scalia opinion
I'm not a research service, so you're on your own for the rest.
To: centurion316
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posted on
10/01/2012 5:25:53 PM PDT
by
STJPII
To: centurion316
Guano ... meant to leave the impression that Justice Scalia says ONLY jus soli. Someone is working hard to cover little barry bastard commie’s flanks.
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posted on
10/01/2012 5:39:51 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: WildHighlander57; SvenMagnussen
Don’t get your hopes up - Sven frequently makes wild statements that he never backs up.
To: Red Steel
I am read the opinion. It states there are only two citizens. There is no discussion at all to the “birther” issue. It is in the link.
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posted on
10/01/2012 6:31:37 PM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: Red Steel; null and void; LucyT; Spaulding; rxsid
Per DC Circuit Judge Sullivan:
“Moreover, the Supreme Court has consistently held that the distinction between natural born citizens and naturalized citizens in the context of Presidential eligibility remains valid.”
I don't recall any such SCOTUS holding “in the context of Presidential eligibility,” rather only holdings relating to NBC issues concerning persons who were not presidential candidates, such as Mrs. Minor, or Elk and Elg.
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