Skip to comments.2012 Flashback: Free Republic: 2 Weeks Left of Relevancy Unless You Fix It [updates at 130, 270]
Posted on 10/23/2012 3:58:44 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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If you haven't written a book yet, sir, I ask, what in the world are you waiting for? The story of the founding and growth of Free Republic would be of interest to at least as many people as there are registered here...
That's just because I always click "Allow" on the upgrades.
When John reports that "all the dials are fine", but things clearly aren't fine, he is missing something important. Without a monitoring tool that collects all the relevant information, he may never see it.
Unfortunately, I would be limited in what I could do in your current implementation. But, there is a great deal of information that typically isn't watched, and should be.
Thanks to you all, and God bless you.
Thank you both very very much for Free Republic.
I have seen a lot of complaining from my fellow FReepers and I am surprised that I have not seen an “official” response. If there has been one, can someone post a link for me?
I hope to learn more in this thread....
Of course Humble is evil.
He’s had The Coffee.
It’s what powers his Blogger Overlord armor I hear.
He didn’t offer you any coffee when you met, did he?
Well, I’m prototyping some new software designs myself (in my spare time). Don’t have it ready for public demo yet though.
Nope, Laz never made it. Darn the luck.
True dat... it is sort of like posting without reading, and no one here does that.
I’m still in for that Beta tester role. :)
BTW, we should join forces and I’d love to see how your ideas might integrate to some of mine. :)
Now that I know your phone number, let me know a decent time to chat. It’s very important to me that you know I mean to include you and John ((((100%)))) should this thing be useful!!!!!
Uh, John, you might need to learn a new language, but how bad is that??? :)
JimRob has been hear, scan upwards. Unlike Obama, he answered every point raised.
I just remember back during one of the Pres election days there were 11 million “somethings” that day.
Wow, 1.2 million pageviews that's a bunch, and 77,000 pageviews per hour at the peak that's a lot too!
And an average of 1m a day, FR is the man!
Thanks to you, John, and Chris for keeping FR up and shaking up the political scene.
I don't quite understand that cloud thingie (and don't want it clogging up my brain either lol) but it seems it has potential to be part of the solution.
Thanks for the post Jim.
Yeah, I remember the 11 million hits number too. I think our third party hits counter software in those days was over counting. I think “hits” included pages and images so it probably wasn’t over 1 million pageviews.
That speaks to a problem behind the firewall. Once you are in the server farm, something’s causing a near-thrash condition. Okay, that’s not the right term for it, but you know what I mean.
That ain't no small fish!
Yeah... I’m not wading into that mess. Too much emotion and not enough IT.
I just know there are solutions available and in modern IT, taking this long to fix an issue with a message board is not something that should be going on. But it’s not my baby so... All I know is that I stayed off the site most of today as it was still slow. Soon just start going elsewhere. Twitter isn’t a bad replacement.
That won't be it. That stuff is in a db. This is chewing processer time and availability. Different parts of the same animal.
I must concur.
The pain you feel today is the strength you'll have tomorrow.
Look, if you don’t trust me don’t donate. In fact, if you think I’m that bad, just leave. No one forces you to be a member here.
Interesting. I've noticed certain patterns of behavior when the system is acting wonky. The following are problematic functions:
Logging into the system
Responding within an open thread
Searching personal history, previous posts
Each of these would seem to require some form of authentication - if I were looking at these problems within one of my own systems, I would look at LDAP. Not sure what authentication routines or procedures are being used within FR but I'd be looking there.
Good observation. JohnRob, here's a lead.
Also, I note that posting to a ping list, which requires a lot of lookup of names, is slower. Perhaps the user database needs optimized, and maybe some of the related authentication code (cookies-referencing code, I suspect) needs to be looked over.
I mean, God love ya Jim, but they have you as some sort of Bonnie and Clyde. Your health simply isn't good enough to ENJOY ill-gotten gains!!! I'm amazed and impressed you do all you DO with the forum, frankly... that can only come from a labor of love, y'know? Love of America. You miss America as much as I do.
that’s a beautiful story Jim....however I told ya what the problem is and gave ya the number to the IT tech to prove it....for the cost of a phone call....I did this 4 times in 2 months.....so Pardon me if all the explainations fall on deaf ears
I like Fr but loath arrogance or ignorance
BS!! Our work is done for a bit by then on election night. Seems your main interest is in partying and whining and FAIL big time in your manipulative attempts with your liberal agenda here. Go crawl back in your dark hole. We have permanent lights on @ FR and, perhaps, too bright for you.
You are no messenger, just a whiner - a dime a dozen! Get in the back of the line where you will see how 'not relevant' you are.
Comeon bro, Pittsburg was too snarky, no doubt, but he raised important points. JimRob agreed and addressed all the points even throughout the thread. We cannot be a ‘dysfunctional family’ where we cannot honestly talk about real problems. We’ll find solutions, in time, but we have to be able to talk about the problems....
Well, me calling the number would do no good whatsoever. If your friend on the other end of the line has THE solution, please have him email it to me and I’ll be sure John gets it.
“Live chats would be a good substitute for all kinds of things”
I second that.
The excellent reptile forum I belong to has several great topical forums *and* a live chat room available 24/7.
The chat is fast moving and in real time.
I prefer chat over FB because FB is pure evil, IMO.
I searched for organic coconut oil for my dogs a week ago and I’m *still* getting intrusive ads for that brand of oil.
FB tracks every bloody move you make.
No kidding, right?
As an experienced software developer and unix systems & database administrator, it wears me out when people make blanket statements without any intimate knowledge of the operating environment. Alerting management and administrators that a problem exists and expressing the level of its severity is acceptable. Making suggestions is acceptable. Offering help is acceptable. Making blanket statements about what is obviously the problem and how easy it is to fix are unacceptable and unappreciated.
No, it is absolutely not a simple matter to "upload the code" to a "new hosting company." Software is designed, coded, and configured to run in specific operating environments. Generally speaking, changing operating environments requires configuration changes at multiple places: the network, the hardware, the operating system, the database(s), and the software. It can and usually does require changes to the actual software, meaning how the software is written. Unless the operating environment was specifically designed to be portable across platforms and environments (most aren't), it probably isn't easily ported.
Troubleshooting performance issues is also not a simple matter. It is almost always not a matter of "either this or that." It is almost always a combination of solutions, which means a combination of resources must be examined in multiple combinations at multiple times from multiple perspectives: network, hardware, database, and software. Money is rarely the easy answer. When it is, the IT staff hollers "Yeehaw!" and gets to work, eager to fix the damn thing and be done with the complaints.
Now, with respect to professional help in troubleshooting the performance problem, I will put my money and my experience where my mouth is and offer my expertise, my time, and that of my very experienced IT associates and probably some FRiends. If Jim and John want the help (for free), there it is.
But don't anybody get excited. That does not equate to "problem solved." There would be many details to work out and coordinate, not the least of which is John's time, effort, availability, and professional trust. Is he even willing to allow someone else a look under the hood to help diagnose the problem? Only he can or should answer that question. I can guarantee that screaming at him or trying to force him to do so ain't gonna work. Been there, done that, ain't doin' it again.
Can it be resolved before the election? I don't know. Can we try? I don't know that either.
Many more questions than answers, unfortunately.
FRegards, Tex P.S. As a frame of reference, one of the developers of Facebook commented recently that if FB had to do any significant reconfiguration or make significant changes to the operating environment, it would be an epic failure and disaster, essentially, because Facebook grew at an exponential rate and was not built with scalability or performance in mind. They just threw money and hardware at the problems ... because they had that luxury.
Knock it off. That ain’t helping.
Tell your browser to delete your cookies every time you shut it down.
I don't know if Internet Explorer has that option, but you can certainly delete all your cookies manually. Firefox has a way to do it automatically each time.
That gets rid of all the tracking cookies that you have in your browser. You'll also lose some other stuff, like default usernames. You'll have to login to FR again. But, it's more reliable than any other methodology.
I was just telling him that the other day!
Learn C#? On purpose? Why? Yech!
First things first. God bless and keep you and your genius son, John.
FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY and will never be irrelevant.
We are the premiere site on the whole of the Internet for God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty Conservatives and our awesome membership freely supports our forum with freely given donations!
I don’t want to hear any talk about refunding the donations intended for the new equipment when John determines the precise equipment that’s needed. In fact, if more money is needed, we’ll raise it!
There’s been a lot of griping and and understandably so. The premiere site is expected to be online 24/7.
You have graciously put those questions and gripes to rest. I’m so sorry you had to share John’s personal information with the membership, but perhaps that was necessary too. He has my prayers and now the membership’s too. Of course, everyone should realize, that his personal problems have not stopped his work on solutions for FR’s problems!!!
Like you said, “there’s no place like home” and FR is our home!
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Well, that's the epitome of arrogance and ignorance considering the fact that you didn't write the software, didn't implement it, AND don't maintain it.
Just goes to show that when you have a great site..you draw more people:) I have faith in you as do the majority of freepers and know you and John are doing your best..that is all that matters to me.
Love Free Republic:)
I thought Jim’s offer to refund was a stand up move. I am not interested in getting my paltry donations back - I pay for value received.
I do appreciate the suggestions and offers of help. I am a bit perplexed with the resistance. It has been my experience that a second set of eyes and a second brain often helps when I get stuck on a problem.
Because then you would have access to a truly object-oriented language with a rich and well-tested library of highly-scalable, easily-configured functionality, based on a language-agnostic platform that adapts well to Agile development techniques?
FR is bleeding, that much is so. It's difficult to maintain viewing habits let alone posting habits when it's just not possible during any noteworthy event with political import. People will find other options, it's just human nature.
See how many individuals with the necessary talent are FReepers and pull it off in time for the Presidential vote in two weeks. If you need specific equipment publish a list, see about donations of hardware, cash donations, etcetera with a hard number and a deadline, with FReepers themselves involved.
This has been my political home for going on eight years, and I frequented the place for many years before that. This is painful to watch. I'm sure it is for you, you've more or less dedicated your life to FR.
Try this, see if it resolves the issue. Time is getting short, I'm not the only one with this sense.
Jim, if you ever decide you need to do some financed equipment for 2 or 3 years, I will help with $50 extra a month just for that payment. Just say the word. I am betting there would be a few of us who would throw in to get the systems running better.
Excellent post, onyx.
Quit griping, What is, is. On a night like last night, plan ahead and go somewhere you can follow the goings on.
Obviously nothing is going to change, so, you have to change.
I have a slew of web hosting user names and passwords stored in my browser and it’s a PITA to have to go look them up every time I update my sites, not mention all the log ins I have.
Can’t do it.
Firefox has an option to ‘protect’ them but it is so aggravating and time consuming.
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