Skip to comments."Rogue"U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Teams; Ignoring Libya Stand-Down Order
Posted on 10/29/2012 12:12:26 PM PDT by tselatysr
The official story surrounding the events of September 11, 2012 in Bengzahi, Libya which left four Americans dead, has now officially fallen apart.
After numerous flips and flops by the Obama administration, which originally attempted to paint the incident as a Muslim outcry over an anti-Islamic video, whistle blowers throughout the U.S. government, including within the White House, the State Department, national intelligence agencies and the U.S.military have made available stunning details that suggest not only did operational commanders have live visual and audio communications from drones overhead and intelligence assets on the ground, but that some commanders within the military were prepared to go-it-alone after being told to "stand down."
Africom commanding officer U.S. General Carter Ham, after being ordered to essentially surrender control of the situation to alleged Al Queda terrorists and let Americans on the ground die, made the unilateral decision to ignore orders from the Secretary of Defense and activated special operations teams at his disposal for immediate deployment to the area.
According to reports, once the General went rogue he was arrested within minutes by his second in command and relieved of duty.
"(The) basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on; without having some real-time information about what's taking place," Panetta told Pentagon reporters. "And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation."
The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The question now is whether the American people will hold to account the chain of command responsible for leaving our people behind, fabricating a politically expedient story, and continuing to sell the now defunct lie(s) even after all of their variations of the story were found to be false and misleading.
A General who made the decision to assist diplomatic and intelligence assets on the ground has been arrested and will likely be retired or worse, while those who ordered the removal of embassy security details and ordered U.S. forces to stand-down are left to go on about their business and likely risk more American lives in the future.
In some circles the actions of those at the very top of the command structure during the Bengzahi attacks would be considered traitorous.
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I think the general did the right thing, but not sure the case rises to the level where he should ignore the chain of command. I’m glad there are still leaders out there willing to do the right thing.
Duty, Honor, Country
America needs to tell this General: “We got your 6.”
But get back to me when there is documentation of an actual “arrest” of a U.S. Army General.
Under UCMJ disobeying orders would not cause an arrest of military personnel other than a superior officer ordering that the service member be relieved of duty.
“..against all enemies foreign and domestic.”
I hope our military in their various academies, learned what happened to Stalin’s top generals and that they have the vision (or sense of self-preservation) to keep it from happening here and now.
OTOH, a bullet to the back of the neck is at least quick and relatively painless, compared to being systematically starved to death like so many of Stalin’s Ukrainian farmers, or systematically beaten and frozen to death in gulags like so many of his academicians and intelectuals.
The rest of us might well end up envying our officers for their swift deaths.
More conflicting (Lies) out on this situation. Reports indicated that Africom did not have a special forces detachment which is given to all four star commands. But this report indicates HAM was ready to deploy a special forces unit.
Well explain why we blindly armed the Sinola cartel in Mexico then, Mr Panetta!
“Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.”
Apprehended and relieved of command?
And yet somehow, today, he’s still the AFRICOM commander...
If he were “apprehended and relieved of command” on September 11, then how has he been putting out press releases and statements on any number of issues for the last month?
America needs to tell this General: We got your 6.
And actually follow through.
This will definitely create a whiplash against the Obama Administration!
General Carter Ham, thanks for trying.
And I take offense to the fact that he's not being grilled by Congress in an impeachment hearing.
This has 'article' has the whiff of 'left field' to it, which does our side no favors . . .
He was speaking to ROTC cadets in Washington on 24 Oct 2012 as the AFRICOM Commander?
Yes, but we already had forces in harms way and the point was to get them out - that other thing you must have read about never leaving a comrade in arms behind on the battlefield.
Sooo what this article states to me, is that General Ham didn’t select a second in command that was loyal to him...
but instead was a drone in the collective..
Ham may have assumed democrat functionary’s can be loyal..
On the other hand Ham may be a democrat himself..
HAm was not in charge.. he didn’t know his men.. or HIS situation..
Seems pretty much the case with Petreaus as well..
Zero like Clintoon has seemed to salt traitors in the ranks.. maybe even George Bush.. Remember Bush KEPT most of Clintoons lawyers at the Justice Department..
Little doubt the Chiefs of Staff are functional Marxists too.. like the Cabinet..
Zero just may have critical mass met for a Coup D’Etat..
He also OWNS the FBI, NSA, CIA, and BATF... supported by a corrupt Justice Department.. Plus Zero OWNS the Unions meaning the Police, Firefighters and Teachers.. in most all States..
A Coup D’Etat is possible.. assuming it hasn’t happened ALREADY..
It’s possible Romney is the same cabals Plan “B” in case Zero totally screws up.. and causes the sheeple to STAMPEDE..
I am ready to stampede NOW.. in ways already have.. (metaphorically)..
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