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To: WildHighlander57

Can anyone explain why Obama Senior was needed in 1971?

How does a child immigrate from one country to another - without his parents doing so?

In 1971 Obama II immigrated from Indonesia to the US. That is a fact. How? How? How?

His mother did not immigrate back at the time. His step/adoptive father was not a citizen. Who was his guardian? How did he terminate his Indonesian ties?

As an alien father reclaiming his son Obama Senior could do that.

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/3ae6b4ec8.html

“Article 17.

The citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia is lost because of:

...
c.being recognized by an alien as his/her child if the person concerned has not reached the age of 18 and is not married yet and does not become stateless with the loss of the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia;”

Obama senior provide a conduit to terminate Indonesian citizenship. To do this birth records would have be presented. They would have to match the likely faux divorce of 1964. Since this was probably ‘in the best interest of the child’ the state probably helped to ‘clean up the records’ in 1971. This is when documents were likely recreated and altered - at least the first time.

The events that lead to the immigration of Obama II from Indonesia to the US need to be answered once and for all. This event and its associated records should clear up a lot.

Ignore this fact and the tail chasing continues.


79 posted on 12/12/2012 7:35:08 PM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: bluecat6

You wrote:

“The events that lead to the immigration of Obama II from Indonesia to the US need to be answered once and for all. This event and its associated records should clear up a lot.”

Have passenger records from Indonesia to Hawaii in the months of his arrival been found?

Would show him and with whom he traveled.

Nobody gets on an international plane without the proper documentation; what were the travel docs needed from Indonesia back in 1971?

Also, a question about your post about lineouts on legal documents:

What was the mistake that SADO made?


82 posted on 12/12/2012 7:49:36 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: bluecat6

Exactly. You cannot know what was behind all that without the relevant family court records. As I see it, the boy arrives in Hawaii unacompanied, he tells the authorities that his grandparents are there to meet him, but he has nothing to show they are in any way related.
What would you expect immigration to do? Hand him over?


83 posted on 12/12/2012 7:55:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: bluecat6
“The events that lead to the immigration of Obama II from Indonesia to the US need to be answered once and for all.”

The 1967 SCOTUS ruling combined with the Elg ruling meant that Barry would NEVER have to “immigrate” and re-nationalize in the US. He could have dual citizenship in 1968 and simply return to the US anytime after that SCOTUS ruling with no problem!

This assumes that he had US citizenship to begin with...based on the report of an HI birth by the grandparents that triggered the newspaper announcements with their address.

95 posted on 12/12/2012 8:44:47 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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