Posted on 11/10/2012 6:17:05 AM PST by grumpa
did Reagan say the same thing?
1. Go home.
2. Apply for visa
3. Wait on line like everyone else.
4. After American jobs are filled, we’ll call you if we need you.
Then you may as well vote democrat because if the GOP is dumb enough to go with your “reasonable” plan, Mitt Romney will be remembered as one of the last “successful” Republicans and that’s the reality you need to face.
Thank you. I appreciate that you’re thinking up conservative-minded solutions to these problems that are a departure from the usual rhetoric.
It occurred to me yesterday that this is the sort of thing the GOP is going to have to begin aggressively pursuing. There are ways to respond flexibly and creatively to common problems people want to see addressed, without forsaking principle.
Some sort of amnesty plan is inevitable, and something similar to some parts of this plan are likely to be a part of it.
Coupling it to the birthright citizenship issue is a deal-killer however, as that has to be done by constitutional amendment.
Not very realistic. These illegals are not going back on their own and we are not going to have mass deportations. Work visas are not citizenship. Our immigration system hasn’t functioned for decades.
And telling these illegals “just go home and apply” is also very hypocritical. You can’t ‘allow” illegal immigration ( and amnesty under Reagan ), not secure your border for decades, use the cheap labor and then decades later say “You have to go back now.”
we have to own up to what we did for decades, and move forward.
My additions:
Make it illegal to rent or sell housing to an illegal.
Make it illegal to issue driver’s licenses to illegals.
Make it illegal to open bank accounts for illegals.
Confiscate vehicles stopped and driven by an illegal (no license).
Stop ALL ferderal funding to “Sanctuary Cities”.
We would never have to deport another illegal alien again.
This would require a constitutional amendment, or at least a Supreme Court reinterpretation of the 14th. First is quite impossible, the second is unlikely, IMO.
--Illegal aliens do not qualify for taxpayer funded social services.
Are you classifying those who have applied for work permits as illegal aliens?
--Hospitals are not required to give care to non-citizens.
Not gonna happen.
--A fence along the southern U.S. border should be built.
Necessary but not at all sufficient.
--Applicants would be accepted only from approved countries that provide us necessary information about the candidates.
What does this mean, especially for those already here illegally?
Any relaxation in the system will be permanent, any restrictions will not be enforced.
Reagan says that amnesty would fix our immigration problem.
To think that republicans and Americans will somehow benefit by supporting amnesty is utterly absurd. Illegal aliens are from a hardcore Marxist society; very few of them care to assimilate to American culture, and fewer still would vote republican. Grant them amnesty, and this country is finished forever... PERIOD.
The simplest solution would be: 1)increase the fines for hiring illegals by 500%, and include a mandatory minimum sentence of 2yrs in a federal penitentiary; 2) increase the number of ICE agents by 300% and increase the budget for BP/ICE by 300%; 3) start building the wall.
If you want to pay for it, defund Obamacare (including the dozens of new agencies, their collective staff, and the 16,000 new IRS agents hired to enforce it) and let about 20% of federal employees find work elsewhere.
In any compromise between good and evil, it is evil that can be the only beneficiary.
I bet you actually believed you could sign up yesterday under the name “Tea American Party Patriot”, support amnesty in your single post and no one would notice.
Might I add:
Proof of citizenship for voting, employments, driver licenses, school registration etc.
No public funded services except transportation home and any emergency medical care to get you there.
If the GOP supports anything that involves some hint of amnesty, watch as even more of the base feels alienated and refuses to vote on election day.
“These illegals are not going back on their own”
Of course not, if we keep supplying them work and benefits. It’s like feeding Bears, keep food around the neighborhood and they’ll stick around.
What you describe is amnesty. To be able to pay a fee to become a US citizen after living here illegally is a big, fat, amnesty—and the end of any hope of conservative, constitutional government.
As the Rule of Law evaporates into oblivion in our country, so does our country itself.
Without questioning your good will, that is exactly what so many people do, while thinking they are reasonable and compassionate. The Rule of Law is what has set this country apart from all others. It is that which excludes tyrants and kings from owning our very souls.
We must insist on this or we die as a healthy society.
We need to close the borders as tight as we can and we need
mandatory e-verify and harsh penalties for those who hire people not here legally. Self deporation and standing in line is only fair to those already here or standing in line
We can have exclusions for hard cases only with hearings which can be asked for, but we cannot give up our laws like wimps.
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