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To: count-your-change
Given abuse of alcohol is a problem why on earth add fuel to the fire?

Because continuing the War On Drugs fuels a different, bigger fire.

Do you support removing fuel from the substance-use fire by re-banning alcohol?

No answer to the question?

Legalize drugs and take the profit and crime out it, right?

California has legalized pot

Only for medicinal use with a doctor's recommendation - a mini-"legalization" that nobody has ever claimed would take the profit and crime out of pot. Greatly reduced prices, profits, and crime can be expected when and only when drugs are available to any adult who has the money (as is currently the case for the mind-altering drug alcohol).

and the profit and crime are still there.

If you’re going argue privacy for drug use then it should be private and in private.

I'm A-OK with laws against public use and public intoxication such as apply to the mind-altering drug alcohol.

No drug shops

Does that include the mind-altering drug alcohol?

or hidden plots in the national forests with guards willing to shoot the wandering hiker.

Those are creations of the War On Drugs; legalize, and they'll be as common as hidden alcohol stills.

Speeders pose a clear and present danger to others; this is not the case for users of alcohol or other drugs.

Really? I guess some naked guy trying to break into a school was just there for sex ed.

15% of Americans used illicit drugs last year - how many of them got naked and tried to break into a school? The standard for "clear and present danger" is not it-happens-once-in-a-blue-moon.

Also, speed laws apply only on public roads whereas drug use takes place in private bloodstreams.

13 posted on 11/13/2012 7:15:58 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
“Those are creations of the War On Drugs; legalize, and they'll be as common as hidden alcohol stills”

So you say. That would be “mind altering drug alcohol”, right?

The advocates of drug legalization trot out the “mind altering drug alcohol” is equal to pot argument time after time yet alcohol can be used without impairment of mental ability and judgment while such impairment is the whole purpose of drug use.

So no I don't favor returning to the Prohibition Era.

“Only for medicinal use with a doctor's recommendation - a mini-”legalization” that nobody has ever claimed would take the profit and crime out of pot. Greatly reduced prices, profits, and crime can be expected when and only when drugs are available to any adult who has the money (as is currently the case for the mind-altering drug alcohol).”

The “Only for medicinal use with a doctor's recommendation” rule has in fact made pot available to anyone who wants it and has the price. This de facto legalization has not taken crime out of the equation.
And the forest plots are still there.

I have no doubt that legalization of pot will continue with other drugs to follow.

I see it simply as part of the rot of a society that is becoming more accepting of every kind of vice, homosexual “marriage”, pornography, prostitution.

14 posted on 11/13/2012 8:44:06 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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