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Let's begin with what this isn't. It isn't a final statement on anything. It's the opening to a discussion and the discussion is a look at how we can win....
1 posted on 11/12/2012 5:41:05 AM PST by expat1000
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2 posted on 11/12/2012 5:42:22 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Excellent.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 6:36:51 AM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: InkStone
Hear it is.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 7:15:01 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: expat1000
We will not be making one big argument, but a thousand little arguments that fit a common theme. That means organizing coal miners against the EPA, organizing doctors against ObamaCare and similarly organizing workers and owners in every field, focusing on narrow issues that directly affect them, taking an item of legislation, a specific regulation, an omission that bothers them and turning it into our issue and packaging that issue within the larger program.

I know Greenfield's right on this - but I'm not emotionally ready to accept it yet.

8 posted on 11/12/2012 10:07:20 AM PST by GOPJ (Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
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To: expat1000

Dan’s reading my notes again:)


9 posted on 11/12/2012 10:51:48 AM PST by ebshumidors
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To: expat1000

Although my family and friends regard me as an optimist, I’ve long maintained that my most irritating quality is my objectivity. Bearing that in mind, what follows should not be regarded as originating from anger, depression, or any extreme emotion, although it is conveyed with genuine sadness.

I believe that we have witnessed the death of democracy in this nation, and that it will not be restored. We have in power a party that over the last couple of decades has shown itself to be increasingly contemptuous of any law that interferes with their agenda. This would include campaign finance laws, immigration, congressional rules, voter fraud, and yes, eligibility to hold office.

Given that the remedies for transgressions in these areas lie with the Justice Department and/or the House/Senate, if these entities are unwilling to do their respective duties, then there will be no end to the breadth and depth of violations that will keep the Democrats in power. The Republicans, in their desire to get along, take the high road, not fan the flames, etc., have allowed the violations to become increasingly flagrant and widespread. By shirking their responsibility, going back at least to the Senate Republicans’ failure to actually prosecute Clinton, they have fallen victim to the old legal adage “silence equals assent.” By not making investigation and prosecution of vote fraud a priority, and by not giving a damn about Obama’s constitutional ineligibility to hold the office, his fictitious past, and all the evidence of his Marxist ideology, they rolled out the red carpet for a ratcheting up of voter fraud; anything and everything that might be required to secure his re-election.

In theory, such corruption could still be ended if the people were to rise up and demand it; however, they first have to be aware of what’s happening, and with the bulk of the media ideologically invested in the leftist goals of the Democrats, that’s not going to happen. We may further expect that regulatory and corporate pressures will be brought to bear that will ultimately silence those voices that are raised for the purpose of informing.

So all the finger-pointing about theoretical numbers of evangelicals who wouldn’t vote for Romney, or conservatives who refused to vote for him, or mishandling the immigration issue, or whatever, is missing the point entirely. We simply were not going to be allowed to win. Of course, many like myself believe that the leftist media, along with carnival acts like Gloria Allred and her ilk, did its best to steer the GOP nomination to Romney in the first place, knowing that he could be more easily beaten than a candidate who would take no prisoners in articulating the conservative viewpoint and exposing Obama for what he is. Even so, for awhile it looked like Romney actually stood a chance of winning, due to Obama’s increasingly transparent incompetence and dishonesty; however, the mechanisms were already in place to deny Romney the votes he needed. Whether it was early voting, military vote suppression, injunctions against voter ID laws, same-day registration of illegal immigrants, or front-loading of votes where GOP observers were ejected, Romney was never going to win. Although lawyers were in place for a 2000-esque recount circus, that was only going to be a last resort if the results of pre-election and election day fraud fell a bit short.

True, we still have the House, which of course is because the representatives are selected by districts where, if the constituents lean conservative, it’s going to be harder for opposing ideologues to position themselves where they need to be in order to manipulate the vote. Senate results, on the other hand, may be skewed by the vote counts in any one or more Democrat-dominated districts elsewhere in the same state. Of course, the Democrats won’t rest until they own the House, too, so watch for new redistricting efforts.

Migration will have an impact, too, on any theoretical future comeback by the GOP. Red states, with their generally healthier economies, will see themselves shifting purple as left-minded voters infect them when they are looking for a job or just better economic environment than the one they’ve been in (which they no doubt helped destroy with their votes). It’s happening in Texas.

So to summarize, I think the ends-justify-the-means attitude of contemporary Democrats, combined with a growing percentage of voters who agree with that philosophy; with a media that will readily cover up and/or excuse corruption and incompetence; and with an opposition party that doesn’t wield enough power to negate these forces, even assuming they find enough testosterone to try, I just don’t see a way that this can get turned around. Whether one attributes these events to pre-apocalypse prophecy or simply the historic life-death cycle of democracies, we appear to have passed the point of no return.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 11:00:05 AM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: expat1000

“instead of having candidates who have no intention of doing anything about social issues talk about them to prove their sincerity, it would be far better to have sincere candidates who don’t talk about the issues except in very closed forums, but do have plans for taking action on them.”

Good luck with that. The Ralph Reeds and 700 club types all issue questionnaires and commit Republican candidates to their issues, Publicaly, that undermine that part of the strategy.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 11:36:02 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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