I’ve found the easiest way to defeat pro-Socialism arguments is by pointing out the Economic Calculation Problem inherent to it, as elucidated by the Austrian School economists (Mises, Hayek, et al).
Does that break through Liberal Mind Fog, or merely serve to convince you that you're right (which you already know)?
I think a good approach might be to liken government intervention in the economy to opiate medications; they can at times be beneficial to a patient, but when applied in excess they can be harmful. If a patient who is receiving treatment with opiates is becoming increasingly lethargic, that may be a sign not of too little treatment, but of too much. A doctor whose reaction to a lethargic patient was always to increase dosage, even a slightly higher-than-optimal dosage, which should be easily recoverable, would spiral into a fatal overdose.
“I’ve found the easiest way to defeat pro-Socialism arguments is by pointing out the Economic Calculation Problem inherent to it, as elucidated by the Austrian School economists (Mises, Hayek, et al).”
I just ridicule them. Alinsky says that is a liberals biggest fear. Why let Alinsky down. He knows liberals.
later