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To: xzins

Nah, that’s not true. If anything, Libertarians are more reminiscent of original ‘true conservatives’.

The semantics have become confused and conflated with all sorts of nonsense over time. Philosophically speaking, the US was founded as a Liberal nation—in the sense of what is now known as ‘Classical Liberalism’ or Libertarianism in the context of US politics. What happened was that the Progressives/Socialists essentially stole the word ‘Liberal’ for themselves, and so those who desired to stay true to America’s (Classical) Liberal foundations generally became the Conservatives.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 3:34:13 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Utmost Certainty; xzins

Libertarians are more reminiscent of original ‘true conservatives’.

Spirited: Nothing could be further from reality. While a handful of the Founders were Deists, most were Christian even if only nominally. All of them adhered to unique spiritual foundations specific to the Bible such as for example, the Bibles definition of man created in the likeness of the triune God, meaning that man is a tripartite being: spirit (mind, will, conscience), soul (self), body.

Within the context of this view property rights begin with the spiritual, not the temporal.

Modern Libertarianism has its roots in polytheistic positivism, whose father is the madman Comte and in Ayn Rand’s materialism, Modern materialism has its roots in ancient Egypt and in certain Greek nature philosophers such as Epicurus.

Common to both views is naturalism. Naturalism denies the existence of the living triune God and posits spontaneously generated matter (generated from nothing) as its’ source of being....life, consciousness. However, spontaneous generation was disproved over 100 years ago, which means naturalism has no source whatever for life, consciousness, and mind. And this is precisely why materialists like Richard Dawkins are quietly moving away from spontaneous generation and toward extraterrestrials in the hope that they are the sowers of life on our planet. Of course this position merely moves the unresolvable problem of the origin of life out into deep space.

For many long years Libertarians have loudly boasted of their reason while ridiculing the faith of Christians. However, the brutal reality for Libertarians is this: Christians have a living Source of life and mind. But Libertarians, evolutionary materialists (i.e., dialectical materialists, secular humanists) and polytheistic pantheists(i.e., positivists, spiritual transhumanists) have no source for life and mind,. For them, life and mind are like the Kings’ new clothes-—nonexistent.


47 posted on 11/16/2012 4:40:52 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: Utmost Certainty

Which is why the Founders were pro abortion, pro gay marriage, and pro drugs?


64 posted on 11/16/2012 5:52:49 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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