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Concealed Carry- A Police Officers Prospective(MO)
mikesbales.hubpages.com ^ | 19 November, 2012 | Mike

Posted on 11/20/2012 6:01:49 AM PST by marktwain

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The comments at the end of the article disagree with this officer and are very instructive. Very few officers will insist that they disarm CCW carriers.
1 posted on 11/20/2012 6:01:54 AM PST by marktwain
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Just wow. Down here in Texas the officers generally trust CHL holders; we’re required to hand them the CHL with our license. And as for non-CHL but with a weapon in the car - you’re only required to state you have a weapon if they ask “do you have any weapons in the car”.

There’s no reason for them to unload the damn thing and bring it back to you in pieces. The only time it’s an issue down here is if you run into a solo rookie, which is also quite rare.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 6:14:41 AM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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We are required to reveal if we have a weapon. The one encounter I had the H Patrolman said nobody identifies themselves and you could tell he didn’t quite know what to do.

He never touched or even looked at it. He probably figured I was a typical white guy clinging to my guns and bibles.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 6:21:28 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: marktwain

What the hell!? Why would the officer take your weapon back to his car? Sounds like a recipe for theft to me.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 6:22:58 AM PST by dinodino
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I disagree with this article’s author, but I live in Florida. I’ve NEVER had to hand over my weapon, and in the event an officer asks, I would ask, “Am I under arrest or do you have reasonable suspicion to confiscate my firearm?” If the answer is yes, then there are bigger issues at play. If the answer is no, then I politely tell them that if they do not have a legal reason to confiscate my weapon, I do not have a legal reason to hand it over.

In an overwhelming number of cases, a CWP holder in the state of Florida is NOT going to be a criminal, and by offering up the CWP during a stop as a supplement to my DL and registration, I am telling the officer that I am not only a law-abiding citizen but I am also not trying to hide anything.

I would be beyond livid if an officer handed me a bunch of loose ammunition and tossed my weapon and magazine in the back seat. While he’s driving away, there’s that brief minute or two while I’m reloading my magazine that I could be in danger, and that officer would be the reason my life’s in danger at that point for effectively disarming me.

If it ever comes to this sort of BS in Florida, I’ll just abstain from telling them that I’m carrying. To assume that a CWP holder is carrying an illegal firearm is overly presumptuous and arrogant of any LEO.


5 posted on 11/20/2012 6:22:58 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: marktwain
Police Officers are your friends... some are, some aren't.
6 posted on 11/20/2012 6:27:10 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: marktwain

“Perspective”.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 6:32:04 AM PST by OKSooner ("I will bless those who bless thee, and I will curse those who curse thee.")
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To: rarestia

Turn the weapon over to the officer in this scenario? Hah! That will be the last time you see it. He’ll either keep it or take it back to the station and gift it to one of his buddies. His traffic cam will somehow missed that part of the exchange.

Police are not your friends in these times. They exist to draw chalk lines around your body and string yellow tape at the site.


8 posted on 11/20/2012 6:36:19 AM PST by damper99
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To: Last Dakotan

There is no situation that can not be made worse by injecting the police into it.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 6:36:30 AM PST by Autonomous User (The Obama Doctrine: Blame America First.)
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To: rarestia

i don’t see the point in MI in telling an officer that i have a cpl- it comes through on their system when he runs my plates, before he even walks up to my car, that i do have one.
we don’t have to hand over out firearm here in MI either unless we are under arrest. worst an officer can do is ask me to place it, temporarily, in plain sight.


10 posted on 11/20/2012 6:36:35 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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“That being said if I find out you have a CCW from dispatch or some other way I will not be very happy when I do ask you and find out that you are carrying a weapon.”

Well, boo friggin hoo. Police also get unhappy if you don’t give your consent for them to perform an unconstitutional search of your vehicle, or allow them to question you without an attorney. That doesn’t mean that waiving those rights is a good idea though.

This advice seems designed to make the police officer’s job easier, but remember the police officer’s job is to arrest YOU, for some crime or another. It’s not usually in your best interests to make his job easier.


11 posted on 11/20/2012 6:37:30 AM PST by Boogieman
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while 99.99% of police officers will ask that you do indeed hand it to them

99.99% of psychotic ones.

12 posted on 11/20/2012 6:46:59 AM PST by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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I will not be very happy when I do ask you and find out that you are carrying a weapon

Oh, but of course us citizens exist only to ensure your happiness. /s

13 posted on 11/20/2012 6:49:34 AM PST by LouAvul
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Lots of bad ideas in this one.

First of all, lock your doors and only roll down your driver’s window four or five inches, enough to communicate.

Do put your hands on the top of the steering wheel.

You do not want the officer to be able to snatch your door open, or to send two Taser probes into you through your open window.

Be advised that the DEA and FBI now regularly put out warnings to police departments all over the US about the abuse of steroids by police officers. Such drugs may make otherwise good officers unpredictable, so look for the telltale “weight lifter body”, and be extra polite and relaxed.

You must learn your state’s law about weapons in vehicles. If it is not in open display, and you are not required to mention it, don’t. The one exception is if your gun is in the same place as your registration and proof of insurance.

Lots more ins and outs to all of this.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 6:51:13 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: rarestia
I also live in FLA. and acquired my CCW license about a year ago. IIRC my CCW course instructor stated in class that it was not necessary to inform law enforcement you are carrying unless asked.
15 posted on 11/20/2012 6:53:53 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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“Be advised that the DEA and FBI now regularly put out warnings to police departments all over the US about the abuse of steroids by police officers.”

Citation?


16 posted on 11/20/2012 6:56:43 AM PST by GalaxyAB
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To: GalaxyAB

I’m sorry, I’m afraid I don’t understand your comments.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:03 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Last Dakotan

Especially not if you have a dog with you.


18 posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:17 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: marktwain

I think he forgot to add “Kneel down and kiss my ass.”

But all that aside, those damn slaves do not need weapons. The weapons are for the masters and overseeers. The slaves need only to do as they are told, how they are told, and when they are told.

So one slave kills, robs, or rapes another slave? Big deal. The masters and overseers will handle that problem.

The thig from my perspective is that at one thim long ago, the policeman was just a member of the community. More than one policeman has told me that he had no problem with good people having/carrying guns. Several went on to say, “Before I was a policeman, I kept one with me all the time.” I never thought that I would live to see the day that Americans would enjoy being slaves so much.


19 posted on 11/20/2012 7:04:23 AM PST by sport
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This article is loony, I have been stopped twice during holiday DUI roadblocks(I don’t drink) and both times I informed the officers I was armed and had it on my person as I was handing them my DL and CCW permit, neither even blinked or asked me to disarm but I told them right up front,anyway they sent me on my way quicker than they were others that were being stopped I might add.


20 posted on 11/20/2012 7:21:28 AM PST by dpetty121263
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