Rod - I don’t think starting a 3rd party assures our destruction. I think it’s the only path to success. But we have to take a long-term view on the presidency - 12-16 years - instead of supporting more of the same. We can’t continue this short-term thinking. It’s killing us.
The GOP is a damaged brand, as is the “Tea Party” (not the Tea Party philosophy, just the name). There is no point in pursuing either one any more. The media has successfully destroyed them.
Instead, we either join the Constitution party or start another which will take much longer, and start looking for legitimate congressional candidates who can communicate conservatism in a rational and convincing manner. A massive influx of conservatives into the Constitution Party will give it credibility that will attract both legitimate candidates and additional conservatives. One win is all it will take to turn the corner.
We abandon the presidency for the next 2-3 cycles and concentrate our efforts on getting Tea Party-type people into a majority position in the House and Senate - local and state efforts, not national efforts - more under the radar. If we’re able to get a majority of conservative candidates into congress, whoever is President is immaterial. With 60 senators and a majority in the House, we can get anything passed we want to - overriding a presidential veto as required.
I doubt the GOP will ever have another of their candidates elected as President - with our current demographic and a treasonous media, even if the GOP gets a candidate elected he will only be less liberal than the liberal the Dems put up.
I don’t see any other way at this point. I said early this year that the selection of Mitt Romney as the GOP candidate would be the death of the GOP. We can’t change it from within, we can’t continue to support more of the same and I believe that there is no way to convince the mentally-challenged, non-conservatives and non-republicans to join us - the media won’t let it happen. It’s time we recognize this and take some positive action to save the Country.
Count me out when it comes to third parties. You seem to think we have a lot more time that I do.
So, you think that if we successfully start the Green Umbrella Party, the media won't destroy that next?
Nonsense. Destroy the media instead.
We abandon the presidency for the next 2-3 cycles and concentrate our efforts on getting Tea Party-type people into a majority position in the House and Senate - local and state efforts, not national efforts - more under the radar. If we’re able to get a majority of conservative candidates into congress, whoever is President is immaterial.
More actual conservative Congressmen is good; fat chance on Senators, and to top it all off, with massive election fraud now the Dems SOP plus ruling by Executive Order and Fed agencies by unilateral fiat, we're freaking doomed without serious fightback. Giving up on anything but Dem/thug presidents for 2 or 3 cycles is utter suicide.
I have supported true constitutional government all my adult life and am damn tired of flip flopping cowards that bow down to the Bible Thumpers to get nominated and then refuse to fight for the office. What’s with Bob Doyle, John McCain and Mitt Romney? Each and every one refused to take the gloves off and punch back. When Dems are elected they harass Repubs with law suits, phoney charges etc. and even drive them out of office, yet the Repubs never give them any pay back. I wanted a candidate that would publically on nation wide TV during the debates question Obama’s passport, college loan/grant applications and his claim to citizenship lies. Make him put up or shut up. Instead we got an ultra nice guy that had the election ripped away from him when he had it made.