Don't Give Up

Sultan Knish ^ | November 24, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

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[cripplecreek]

A weariness and malaise that kicks in when one side decides it can't win and doesn't want to be here anymore.

That's what bullwhips are for.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

But when the buzzer sounds and the game is over, then you have to adjust to live with it. The buzzer has sounded, the game is over, the USA as we knew it is gone. I’m SICK of the “hope” the losing team is continually fed. Hope is not a strategy, so quit passing it out. A different strategy is on the horizon. And if you don’t feel it coming you aren’t paying attention.

[9YearLurker]

Nice thoughts, but for reassurances to work they have to ring true. The majority of Americans did not opt out of voting and the Dems were not rattled. (Hint: They are never rattled and the GOPe always is.)

[ecomcon]

There isn't any room in this country for private enclaves, cultural or otherwise

Ridiculous. "Enclaves" is exactly how the left has stolen the southwest. Mexican enclaves grow until they begin to elect their own, and they are leftists 2 to 1. It's racist top to bottom. Same thing with the Blacks, only more so.

There is no assimilated American ideal anymore, which was the only hope we had to remain a union of common ground Americans. We are all divided into enclaves now.

[Kenny]

All very true, no side has truly lost until they surrender.

But conservatives have to organize if they are to take the country back. We can’t depend on the GOP, they’ve gone to the dark side, and the Tea Party has already been Palinized.

However we do it though, we have to unite and take on the media and voter fraud. We have to!

[cripplecreek]

The left has not won. It is doing what it always does, acting as if its victory is inevitable.

The current behavior of the unions is a beautiful example of just that. They're getting their butts kicked from 1 end if the map to the other while proudly proclaiming victory. The big pro union ballot proposals were crushed in Michigan because many of their own members voted against them. Funny I don't see Trumpka out flapping his gums over them.

The left is smart enough to try to silence the Tokyo Rose brigades within their own ranks and we need to do the same.

[cripplecreek]

State conventions is a great place to restore the GOP policy making power structure to American conservatism. A few hundred votes is usually enough to remove RINO committeemen from the RNC as was done in Michigan last spring. Less than 1500 total votes were cast and a coalition of tea partiers, libertarians, and GOP conservatives came together and swept the RINOs aside like dust.

[Excellence]

srbfl

[Washi]

It was a loss in a close election that rattled the Democrats by showing just how much of the country had turned on their savior.

The author was obviously watching a different election than I was.

Must be a real "glass is half full" kind of person.

[abclily]

I’m paying attention, and I don’t see any different strategy. What is the different strategy?

[Kenny]

Good to know, thanks.

[Agamemnon]

Well written.

We still own the House and we increased (R) at governors' level. We own 23 state houses/senates and governorships outright.

We fight just like "cripplecreek" said: we take over the state party apparatus, like in MI and WI, and IN, and OH, etc.

Ignore the grumbling gas bags around here: the third party types, the self-righteous and self-important.

Refuse to be painted in to the MSM's defeatist trap.

Remain aware of the roughly 30-year cycles of US politics: the 1770's, the 1800's, 1830's, 1860's, 1890's, 1920's, the 1950's, the 1980's, and now, the 2010's.

FReegards!

[Albion Wilde]

Obama lost his mandate. To win, he had to run a divisive campaign dependent on minority groups. And that locks him in a box outside the mainstream. Forget any of that nonsense about bringing the country together again. That is over and done with. The transformation of Obama from mainstream leader to bellicose mouthpiece for the left was completed at his first post-election press-conference.

Republicans might understand what this means if they weren't busy with an opportunistic internal civil war.

[Polyxene]

I have given up. This last election was our last hope, and the takers finally won. Every day, I walk around with a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach, knowing that my country is now fully in the hands of Marxists. I feel like I am watching a horror movie, nerves on edge, waiting for the next horrifying event to take place. Then, I realize I AM in that movie, and the horrifying events are really happening.

[cripplecreek]

As conservatives we pride ourselves on how hard we fight but as individuals we really need to ask ourselves how true that really is.

One point of irritation for me is the fact that we keep allowing positions like university boards of trustees, regents, etc slip through our fingers for no reason other than pure laziness. The same is true of state boards of education. Races like these are too important to let slide because they are the factories that keep pumping out our opposition.

I had the luxury of voting for a tea partier (Rob Steele) for a university of Michigan board of regents seat. He didn’t win but looking at the numbers it became clear that he didn’t win because conservatives didn’t bother to vote in that race. Instead we put two former union reps in the two open regent seats. The same was true of every last state board of education seat as well.

The simple fact is that if we think we can get by with fighting only the convenient battles or the major battles, we have zero hope of winning in the long run. The enemy fights every battle and can be guaranteed a win in every one we don’t fight.

I’m kind of curious if there were no secretary of state races in this election cycle. I never heard a peep about them and they’re the single most important election official in the states.

[LS]

Just to remind everyone, though, it's a process. Just because we "take over" state or local organizations doesn't mean that every person will be successful or even loyal.

My county put in a Tea Party leader (fairly powerful guy in the Tea Party movement) as county chairman---and he simply wasn't up to the job. He had started a new law practice, and had a new wife. As a young guy, we wanted vitality---but younger people just don't have the financial stability to go without income for months at a time. Hence, he couldn't do a tenth of the things a chairman should do. He was "replaced" by an old-line party operative who knew how to get the phones working, get the walkers walking, keep track, and so on. We had some success, in that Obama won the county this time by 3,000 fewer votes. But we thought we might win, or at least break even.

[stevem]

I'd like to get some of what Greenfield is smoking. It must be pretty impressive stuff.

I have never been more distressed by an election in my life, and that goes back a ways.

In my neighborhood people didn't stay home. They turned out in massive numbers. Everything I hold near and dear wasn't defeated in my neighborhood. It was routed, steam rollered, hammered, overwhelmed and paraded to show what a sap I am to think the way we do.

I may have been distressed if Obama had lost a close election. It would have been depressing to think he could get a significant minority to vote for a guy who despises the country the way he does. The fact that the majority feels that way suggests to me that it's over.

None of this means Obama's policies...the salient ones he has succeeded in implementing, by the way...are other than catastrophic. Nevertheless, perhaps Mr. Greenfield can explain to me how even a conservative victory in four years will succeed in disenfranchising any of it. At best sensible people may someday get a chance to tinker around the edges. And what will cause the conservatives to suddenly become a majority?

Obama has wanted to destroy major industries in this country. What is slowing him down?

Who plans to stop him for even the next two years? Boehner? Now that should prove entertaining to watch. We can start an over-under board as to how long it will take the House to cave on every issue.

The Supreme Court? In four years we will probably lose at leat one and probably two more justices while Roberts keeps growing and maturing.

Obama is at war with the Catholic Church. I think even a majority of Catholics voted for him. I hope I'm wrong, but don't think so.

We hear day after day that minorities are getting more conservative, or that hysterical line that blacks are really conservative...just ask them about issues. It looks to me like minorities are getting more liberal. That has been the trend my entire life.

Sorry for the downer post. I'm not going to change my beliefs in this world, I just never see them prevailing. I almost think we would be better off standing aside and let Obama complete the destruction. We're paying for his policies with monopoly money now. Maybe when there is nothing left, we might be able to get something the tiniest bit usable from the ashes.

I would never have believed a guy could run on a platform of hatred and destruction as Obama has, succed in making huge and growing numbers of people more miserable by the day, and attract a majority to say, "Yes, yes, give us more." When he makes things even worse, I wonder if it won't make his majority even larger.

If we didn't lose this election, really lose it hard, I sure hope I can become one of the uncaring before a real loss comes along.

[chimera]

You are not alone in your feelings, believe me. I was willing to write off the '08 result as a kind of fluke. The country had been swung by the media into a frenzy of hate-Bush and hate-Republicans and Obama was there to capitalize on that sentiment. Not so in '12. People knew who Obama was and what he stood for, and they not only did not repudiate it, they embraced it. That has really shaken my faith in the electorate and the country. I knew the majority of the sheeple were incredibly intellectually lazy, but I had some hope they would see through their stupor enough to send Obama packing, but no dice.

Maybe it's just that I am older, but I am about ready to say I'm done with it. Maybe because in past defeats there was some rationale, some hope for the future. I lived through the Goldwater slaughter of '64, but I could see that at least we had some hope of picking up the pieces in '68 when LBJ went down the tubes, which I could see he surely would. Same in '76. The country turned to a loser like Carter as a response to Nixon and Watergate, and we had Reagan waiting in the wings to gallop to the rescue. I don't see that happening in '16. Who do we have to look forward to then? Hillary. That's too depressing to even contemplate at this point. Time to find the gulch.