Women Want Conditional Equality in the Military

Flopping Aces ^ | 11-27-12 | CJ

[little jeremiah]

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Pinging the list because feminism is immoral for many reasons. In this case, feminism demoralizes and weakens the military. Numerous personal accounts prove this, what to speak of news stories. Women should have their own outfits as they did previously. Affirmative action is crippling to individuals and everything it touches. If they want to have women mixed in, then the women should have to perform every test, every action, every bit of training exactly up to the mens' standards. If they can't do it, too bad! (and hardly any of them will be able to).

[Old Sarge]

Old Sarge re-upped after 911, and I don’t know that he was in shape to meet the standards for an 18-yo Private when he went back in. But he had experience which the Army obviously valued.

Too bloody right I couldn't keep up with the kids on a 2-mile track!

I was NOT, nor never was, Infantry. As an Intel geek, I had a skill set which kept me at a distance from things; but the mission demanded that I knew how to move/shoot/communicate at least as well as the young'uns.

Sometimes I was on convoy duty; sometimes I was on LRS missions. Daily we were paying attention to FOB Defense. All of this was as a long-in-the-tooth, 43yo E-6, and I burned up a few tubes of IcyHot trying to run with the big dogs.

And just as a nod to the girls: The Bride was a USAF medic, and ate the same dirt I did. She has stories of wymmyn trying to be She-Ra, same as I do. Same as we all do. But we who have wore the suit and ate the dirt know the deal.

[ConorMacNessa]

I must say that I have been opposed to placing women in combat assignments for many years. Simply put, I didn't rear my daughters to be grunts. I remain opposed at this time. Like Col. John W. Ripley, USMC, I have notions of "femininity, motherhood, and what we have come to appreciate in Western culture as the graceful conduct of women."

I guess that attitude places me out of synch with "modern" thinking. Call me a mossback, a dinosaur or a Neanderthal - I still maintain notions of chivalry and gentlemanly deportment that were imparted to me in my early life.

I'm retiring for the evening - we senior citizens need our rest. I'll drop by in the morning to respond to any comments my remarks may provoke.



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[SaraJohnson]

If women are promoted equally to combat soldiers, you make the men in combat slaves to people who are bossing them around, but have not earned that right and position.

Why should men in leadership be required to fight but not women if they are treated quota equally in rank and line of work outside combat?

Why should men be put on the front line to fight and risk death and mutilation and not women if women are going to be considered equal to men in noncombat position and rank?

There should be a two track promotion of men and women because the military is naturally and honestly respecting the differences in physical strength between the sexes. Since women are not equal to men in strength, women should be serving around what is best for the miliary careers of men who can fight.

That means women should have no standing to argue for quotas and assignments in leadership positions. Men, because they serve in in combat should be perferred in every way. Women should serve around their needs.

Tossing women into combat without equalizing a standard of physical qualification applied equally to men and women before they can join military operations, will be a femenazi experiment in mass murder. Either women are treated toally equal to men in the military, or they are not treated equally in the military.

No half way p.c. games to serve feminists and disadvantage men in the military!

[little jeremiah]

You said it all, and very well. I agree 100%. If not more so!

[redgolum]

If the woman can meet the same requirements as a man, then give her a rifle.

Otherwise she is a larger liability.