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To: Finny

[ Have they explained why temperatures were so high 120,000 years ago that sea levels were about 25 feet higher? Where were the folks lamenting about the loss of their native homes (areas being encroached upon by rising sea levels) then?

And have they explained why temperatures were so cold that only 20,000 years ago, so much was wrapped up in ice that sea levels were, according to my info, 350 feet lower than current sea levels? Can they even explain why in the early 1540s, according to accounts of Juan Cabrillo’s trip up the continental West Coast, there was SNOW on the mountains along California’s Big Sur coast? When’s the last time that happened?

Dinosaurs ruled this planet for more than TWICE AS LONG as since they last disappeared 65 million years ago. In that scale, 500 years since snow on Big Sur — you can even ante it up 20 times that at 10,000 years — nope, not 100,000 years or even 800,000 years, is a gnat’s fart in time in the time context we inhabit. Gore proposes the time/space equivalent of predicting and manipulating a bubble coming to boil in a pot of porridge. The enterprise is hapless.

It’s MATH. ]

Oh, MY!!!!

How dare you bring history and numbers into this!!!!

Actually one model on CO2 increases and so called “global warming” is that it is a very good thing, in that one of the reasons we have had increasing numbers of ice ages in the last 32 million years is that the global CO2 level has been far TOO LOW!!! and had mankind not arrived the earth would likely slowly slip into longer periods of ice ages that would in 20-40 million years or so end with our planet permanently freezing itself so much in a “snowball earth” scenario that the only life would be left in black smokers at the bottom of the ocean floors kinda like what could be existing on the Jovian moon of Europa.

This is because as earth’s core slowly cools there is less volcanism and less volcanism brings less needed CO2 to replenish the carbon lost to naturally occurring carbon sinks.

CO2 as a bad thing is complete and utter rubbish, call me when it gets to 30,000 PPM in the atmosphere right now it is only 350 ppm.


15 posted on 12/08/2012 1:21:01 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG
Very interesting, and thank you for the information!

Actually one model on CO2 increases and so called “global warming” is that it is a very good thing, in that one of the reasons we have had increasing numbers of ice ages in the last 32 million years is that the global CO2 level has been far TOO LOW!!! and had mankind not arrived the earth would likely slowly slip into longer periods of ice ages ....

Well, mankind had a whopping 4,000 years of real recorded history of organized civilization, so his influence is vastly established!!! ;^)

My resident hobby paleontologist reminds me that he's read where fossil evidence indicates that Neanderthal were successfully dominant for some 150,000 years. Meanwhile, fossil evidence of we homo sapiens barely covers a fraction of that! As far as I'm concerned, the best way to look at our place on the earth is to be stewards, as in keeping the land for our own and our posterity's ends, and to accept that the reality is that we're ONLY along for the ride.

19 posted on 12/08/2012 2:19:43 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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